thegibson,

Cambridge Analytica.

dennisfaucher,

@thegibson "Mind F*ck" is fascinating and scary

goodthinking,
@goodthinking@beige.party avatar

@thegibson This thread summarizes all the reasons I think that Fecebook is a criminal organization, and it helped inform my opinion on the various arguments offered here today for and against “giving Fecebook a chance”.

OP deserves to be boosted, imo.

goodthinking,
@goodthinking@beige.party avatar

@thegibson you forgot “Caesar Haircut” and “Sweet Baby Ray’s” ;) but otherwise hell to the yeahs

capnseasick,

@thegibson Oh oh oh! Can I play?

Is ran by a dude that thinks being smart with computers means he's smart at everything.

thegibson,

Unconsented psychological tests on their users.

thegibson,

Royhinga in Myanmar.

thegibson,

Libra.

thegibson,

Fined $5 Billion for user privacy breaches.

lori,

@thegibson hey, who among us right

thegibson,

Embraced allowing manipulation of users by foreign intelligence operations... no matter where you exist.

thegibson,

stood by as an insurrection was planned for the same dictator propped up by the first scandal on this list.

thegibson,

No legs on avatars.

voltur,

@thegibson it's egregious

krupo,

@thegibson there are all the serious reasons but this is one of the best

cxberger,
@cxberger@boiler.social avatar

@thegibson the worst crime of them all to be honest

fidgety,

@thegibson Please make a comment on those suckass Bitmoji-looking avatars. They’re so poorly done, and I’m filled with irrational hatred whenever I see one. I’m pretty sure they could be considered a war crime.

thegibson,

@fidgety for real.

lori,

@fidgety @thegibson i think every company on earth is just mad that they didn't make Miis, and the day that Nintendo fully drops Miis is the day Nintendo is dead to me

fidgety,

@lori @thegibson Seriously. Whenever I’m really sad, I’ll spend hours making fucked-up Miis, which makes me laugh. And, I swear to god, Stuart, that I’d come out of a dead-ass coma if somebody played the Mii song because it’s so funny to me.

In closing, Miis are awesome, and vote for Bea Arthur in your local elections.

lori,

@fidgety @thegibson i bet the next nintendo console will try to introduce "new" miis that look stupid and we'll all be furious

at least xbox let me keep using my old avatar

fidgety,

@lori @thegibson I will hex Nintendo with stinkbugs so hard if they do that.

thegibson,

@fidgety @lori That reminds me, could you remove the Stinkbug hex?
I think I've done my time.

fidgety,

@thegibson @lori Hey, I only send ‘em. I need to be a higher level to make them go away.

mdhughes,

@thegibson No genitals, either! My SL avatar had a custom dick with HUD control and everything. How is their thing so much inferior?

thegibson,

Selling data on those seeking reproductive care in locales where it is now illegal.

thegibson,
thegibson,

Knew it was harming the mental health of teenage girls... did it anyway.

voltur,

@thegibson this entire list of transgressions, which could technically keep going, is just fucking awful stuff

thegibson,

@voltur The list is basically infinite.

deadbeefmonster,

@thegibson @voltur evil is as evil does, there's no redemption. Spot on on all the points.

thegibson,

Blocked attempts to counter anti-vax misinformation attempts.

thegibson,

provided E2EE that was backdoored.

thegibson,

often used as a malware distribution system.

thegibson,

Partnered with media outlets to publish articles downplaying it's egregious behavior.

thegibson,

Constant Anti-competitive behavior.

thegibson,

Sold user data before it was cool.

thegibson,

Violated Wiretap laws 10 yrs. before Cambridge Analytica

thegibson,
thegibson,

What could the future hold? We may never know.

maddiefuzz,

@thegibson Whatever it holds, I’m hoping for a sizable dent.

thegibson,

These are just the transgressions of a single silo, and not an exhaustive list.

These are the reasons we have concerns.

thegibson,

paint us as reactionary if you must, paint us as paranoid... whatever...

This silo is an existential threat to everyone and everything it touches.

But go ahead and learn the hard way...

BabblingGeek,

@thegibson they performed nonconsensual negative testing on users phones running their batteries dry and causing overheating issues.

barrybadrinath,

@thegibson I like you and your content. I'm not trying to call you out or be a jerk with this small rant.

These are valid points. Another valid question: what does everyone working themselves up do at this moment? I don't think there is anyone (with a functional brain) in tech that thinks Zuck is the good guy or that anything Meta/Facebook touches isn't shit. Everyone knows they are cancer.

What concrete steps can be taken -today- that necessitates weeks and probably months of endless Meta discussions and hand wringing. Putting names on a "block 'em boys" list is well and good, but what exactly are admins blocking right now? The concept of Meta federating? There is zero information in the wild about how they will federate, what features will they support, etc.

Does everyone know what the funniest thing in the world would be? Make a Meta sucks joke every once in a while while enjoying the Fediverse for something other than complaining about other shittier social networks.

If/when Meta does show up, maybe even after months of sending free upstream patches to ActivityPub, all the admins block the Meta instance within 24 hours. Fediverse servers could easily do that because there aren't committees to loop in, or stock holders to appease. We could all just say "lol nope, get bent" to Zuck after they spend months on their project.

We can't stop them from building a Fediverse client or toolset. Corporations, governments, data miners, really everyone is already able to see and scrape the Fediverse. We can't control that. Block the bad actors when they are discovered and it is actionable. What we can control is how much we all froth over theoretical future harms and not allowing the big tech dinosaurs to live rent free in our heads and online discourse.

thegibson,

@barrybadrinath

I know what I'm doing about it.

Https://Veilid.org

bitzero,

@thegibson Only paranoids survive

onepict, (edited )
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@thegibson cough since you're talking about metadata. Makes it ludicrously easy for 3rd parties to pass on your browsing data. Really not good when it's for hospital appointments.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/27/nhs-data-breach-trusts-shared-patient-details-with-facebook-meta-without-consent

https://chaos.social/@onepict/107780763058678202

thegibson,

@onepict

You know, I forgot about that time they left millions of users data in an open S3 bucket...

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@thegibson thing is that Pixel system was this year. That article is from May.

Like yes we know posts are scrapeable, but why the fuck would you invite the foxes into the henhouse?

We've also got bitter past experience of being bitten by the Corp data crocodile. It's like watching some gazelles near a watering hole.

yuki2501,
prozacchiwawa,
@prozacchiwawa@functional.cafe avatar

@onepict @thegibson The guardian link got cut off (or was here).

v-- full url for those who might be in the same boat.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/27/nhs-data-breach-trusts-shared-patient-details-with-facebook-meta-without-consent

onepict,
@onepict@chaos.social avatar

@prozacchiwawa @thegibson thank you for this.

I've edited the toot with the fixed URL. 😊

pre,

@thegibson

Grabbing health-data from the NHS by sneaking their spy-pixel in there without the NHS admins knowing what it really did.

wilbr,
@wilbr@glitch.social avatar

@thegibson Peter Thiel was on the board, evidence of some seriously creepy Nazi-type ideology at the top levels

dsfgs,

@thegibson
Have you gotten to the part where they shadowban activists (as far back as , 2015), JulianAssange supporters, freedomSoftware advocates, blocked news in when an attempt to tax them. To be fair the idea was dumb, but it was the speed at which govt yeilded that said it all.

Our including were in 2021 by , yet many in power are so here, they didn't even care to protest.

ErrantSoul,

@thegibson Meta is like the pain box in Dune. These admins/mods want to stick their hands in it again again. "Maybe this time it won't hurt."

rchrd,

@thegibson they sucked his brains out
Dun dun dunnnnnn

socketwench,

@thegibson The way so many data collection companies pivoted to sell that data to law enforcement really paints the entire thing not in the light of legality vs. illegality, but "opening up new demographics for the prison industrial complex."

Macross,

@thegibson you'd think that the no legs thing would have been enough for anyone.

hastur,

@thegibson What the actual ffffuuu....

Clutches pearls

lmorchard,

@thegibson oh oh i know who this is

liz,

@thegibson Does Google constantly killing good projects count as psychological tests? I mean, think of the stress alone they’ve cause

craigmaloney,

@thegibson "Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra"

"Shaka when 'This Is Your Digital Life'".

szbalint,

@thegibson i don’t know, that light genocide thing bothers me more

ahermitforhire,
@ahermitforhire@pagan.plus avatar

@thegibson is this the start of the worst version of the "we didn't start the fire" list?

thegibson,
ahermitforhire,
@ahermitforhire@pagan.plus avatar

@thegibson let's be fair now. this is a completely new project and thus needs to be given the benefit of the doubt. just because it's meta and they did all this stuff doesn't mean we know how it will go this time.

or something equally moronic. yes, this is a subtoot.

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