strypey, to journalism
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

"New Zealand is far, far too small to bring the likes of Netflix, Google and Facebook to heel. California for example, is said to be the fifth largest economy in the world. Yet Meta and Google are threatening to cut off news items (and searches) about California if the state proceeds with... legislation [that] would require the social media giants to pay a “journalism useage fee” for linking to news sites based in California."

#GordonCampbell, 2024

https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL2404/S00041/on-fast-track-powers-media-woes-and-the-tiktok-ban.htm

#NewsMedia #LinkTax

freezenet, to news
@freezenet@noc.social avatar

After Nearly 6 Months Since Dropping News Links in Canada, Meta’s Stock Value Soars

Bill C-18 lobbyists claimed that Meta dropping news links would spell doom for the company. Today's stock prices begs to differ.

For months before the decision, Meta warned that the Online News Act (then called Bil

https://www.freezenet.ca/after-nearly-6-months-since-dropping-news-links-in-canada-metas-stock-value-soars/

freezenet, to Canada
@freezenet@noc.social avatar

National Post Floats One of the Worst Arguments for Payments for Links Yet

We've seen a lot of bad takes and obvious lies from the major media outlets, but a recent National Post article may just take the cake.

With the Canadian government caving to Google, handing them everything and calling

https://www.freezenet.ca/national-post-floats-one-of-the-worst-arguments-for-payments-for-links-yet/

itnewsbot, to medical
@itnewsbot@schleuss.online avatar

Google to pay Canada’s “link tax,” drops threat of removing news from search - Enlarge (credit: Getty Images | Manuel Augusto Moreno)

Google ... - https://arstechnica.com/?p=1987263

walledculture.org, to Facebook

Newspaper publishers’ obsession with link and snippet taxes is bad for society – and bad for them

Traditional newspapers have been complaining about the rise of the digital world for decades. Their discontent derives from the fact that they failed to recognise opportunities early on, leaving the field open for a new generation of born-digital companies to meet the demand for alternative ways to access the news. Rather than trying to understand the dynamics of the …

https://walledculture.org/newspaper-publishers-obsession-with-link-and-snippet-taxes-is-bad-for-society-and-bad-for-them/

SheDrivesMobility, to random German
@SheDrivesMobility@norden.social avatar

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  • AdrianVolt,
    @AdrianVolt@digitalcourage.social avatar

    @SheDrivesMobility @Johannesfranzen @54blog

    Die Digitalisierung und das Internet haben die Bindung von Information an physische Medien vollständig eliminiert. Die Umwandlung von Text, Musik und Video in eine lange Reihe von Bits und Bytes macht es ungeheuer einfach und kostengünstig diese unendlich oft zu kopieren was die medienbasierte Verwertungskette faktisch weitgehend überflüssig macht.

    Die kostengünstige Produktion von potentiell massiver Reichweite stellt eine ungeheure Demokratisierung des Kommunikation dar, niemals zuvor was es für die sprichwörtliche kleine Frau/den kleinen Mann, so einfach, die Öffentlichkeit zu erreichen.

    Was natürlich auch seine Schattenseiten hat, denn die alten Gatekeeper haben auch manchen Dreck ferngehalten. Allerdings gab ihnen dies auch beträchtliche Macht, Meinungen und gar Fakten zu unterdrücken.

    Das ist heute schwieriger, wenn man z. B. den Unsinn den ein Herr Hanfeld zum Thema in der FAZ schreibt widerlegen möchte, reicht eine

    👇

    remixtures, to Canada Portuguese
    @remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

    : "While this doesn’t address all the regulatory concerns, it hits some key ones.

    But the problem is that regulations can only do much. As I wrote months ago, “there are no regulations to be discussed that change the core elements of the law. It’s been decided, has received royal assent, and kicks in anytime within the next 120 days.” Indeed, Google’s response identifies numerous changes to the law itself. Those changes are far more extensive and include removing links as a source of mandated payments (replaced by “displaying news content”), restoration of copyright limitations and exceptions (ie. fair dealing applies), removing broadcasters such as the CBC from the scope of the law by using the government’s own Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization standard, and adjusting the rules on what is considered news content (alpha-numeric text), exemption criteria, and the definitions around digital news intermediaries. Further, it wants to ensure it can elevate high quality news and demote low quality sources in search results and seeks a more balanced approach to arbitration.

    These are significant changes that go to the heart of the problem with the law. Even if there was an openness to reform, they would need to be implemented before December 19th. That seems very unlikely given that the government has shown little interest in changes, which suggests that tinkering with the regulation may be insufficient to address a deeply flawed bill. In other words, the biggest problem with Bill C-18 isn’t the regulations, it is Bill C-18."

    https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/10/regulations-alone-cant-fix-bill-c-18-why-news-media-canadas-surrender-may-not-be-enough-to-stop-google-from-blocking-news-links-in-canada/

    plantarum, to journalism
    @plantarum@ottawa.place avatar

    Andrew Coyne very clearly articulates why the Canadian goverment's and internet bills are actively harmful to Canadians and our access to and the generally. Certainly we have challenges to face on these issues, but a good start would be not making things worse with misguided and heavy-handed regulations

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-government-dug-a-deep-hole-for-itself-with-bills-c-11-and-c-18-and/

    freezenet, to Canada
    @freezenet@noc.social avatar

    Lobby Group, Unifor, Demands Canadian Government Raise Link Tax Rate to 7%

    Lobby group and union group, Unifor, has doubled down on the link tax insanity and demanded a 7% rate.

    Supporters of the link tax have shown little to no sign that they realize what a horrible mistake they made by supporting Canada's link tax law

    https://www.freezenet.ca/lobby-group-unifor-demands-canadian-government-raise-link-tax-rate-to-7/

    #Copyright #BillC18 #Canada #LinkTax #OnlineNewsAct #Unifor

    freezenet, to Hololive
    @freezenet@noc.social avatar

    Heritage Officials are Apparently Feeding US Media Blatant Lies About Bill C-18

    Bill C-18 (Online News Act) is on the verge of being a catastrophic legislative failure. Officials, however, are pretending otherwise.

    The Online News Act is on the verge of being a total failure.

    https://www.freezenet.ca/heritage-officials-are-apparently-feeding-us-media-blatant-lies-about-bill-c-18/

    #Copyright #International #BillC18 #Canada #Facebook #Google #LinkTax #Meta #OnlineNewsAct #US

    llebrun, to random
    @llebrun@mastodon.social avatar

    NEW: Facebook is blocking Canadians’ posts about the assassination of a BC Sikh leader. Their posts were targeted by India’s government.

    Canadian Sikh FB users were told their posts were taken down because they violate Indian law.

    https://pressprogress.ca/facebook-is-blocking-canadians-posts-about-the-assassination-of-a-bc-sikh-leader-their-posts-were-targeted-by-indias-government/

    JizzelEtBass,
    @JizzelEtBass@kolektiva.social avatar

    @osma @Sassinake
    So the problem is that Facebook and Google scrape news articles and don't compensate the news companies that author them, a violation of Copyright and the very definition of theft. The needs to be more narrowly targeted to go after this violation of law.

    ap236, to internet
    @ap236@mastodon.social avatar

    A 4% Link Tax: Why the Government's Draft Bill C-18 Regulations Just Increased the Chances of No News on Meta and Google in Canada - Michael Geist https://bit.ly/3R6mXTn @canadiangreens @cdnpoli

    remixtures, to Canada Portuguese
    @remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

    : "The claims associated with the government’s regulation making process have been vastly overstated. Indeed, if it was the platforms making the claims, they would probably be called disinformation. About the only regulation that really matters right now involves Section 11, since it sets the criteria for an exemption from arbitration and approval of the deals between platforms and media companies. The reports about Google and the government negotiating aspects of the law surely involves what the exemption criteria is and how it will be interpreted. For example, the inclusion of a minimum spend by way of regulation would provide cost certainty and effectively have the government dictate to the CRTC how the criteria should be interpreted (namely, ignore them all if Google meets the spending target). The remainder are minor and have no real impact on how the law will be applied to Meta or Google.

    When News Media Canada says “what we’re saying to Meta is, ‛The regulations aren’t drafted yet. Pick up a pen. Put down your saber and let’s try to work through this together” it’s a fake out designed to deceive. There are no regulations to be discussed that change the core elements of the law. It’s been decided, has received royal assent, and kicks in anytime within the next 120 days. News Media Canada and the associated lobby groups won the battle for Bill C-18. It’s the resulting consequences they don’t like."

    https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2023/08/the-bill-c-18-regulation-fake-out-setting-the-record-straight-on-when-bill-c-18-takes-effect-and-the-regulation-making-process/

    adamkovac, to random

    RT @fagstein: I notice people on Facebook have taken to taking screenshots of news stories to share them.

    So a law meant to ensure Facebook compensates news for sharing content without permission has instead caused Facebook's users to do exactly that while cutting traffic to news sites.

    kkarhan,
    @kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

    @adamkovac is bs as ut only penalizes and won't do jack shite about which are because they didn't get 'd in time...

    pre, to Facebook

    One of the hilarious things going on is that the big capital-owned news companies in Canada decided that they wanted some of Facebook's money.

    So they bribed the Canadian politicians into writing a copyright law which requires that anyone who links to the big capital-owned news companies pay those big capital-owned media conglomerates money for every link.

    😆 🤣

    Obviously Facebook then just stopped allowing their users to do that, because they don't even want their users to leave Facebook and go to news company websites anyway. It's the users that wanted to be able to link like that.

    😆 🤣 And now.. And now..🤣 😆

    For reasons not unrelated to the corporate/capital capture of law and sovereignty, all of Canada is in fire.

    People are trying to tell their friends on Facebook about how they have to immediately leave the town because it's going to burn down and they are all going to die.

    But they are trying to do so by linking to the local capital-owned news media conglomerate's web-pages.

    But doing that isn't allowed any more because, the news media conglomerates demand payment for that sort of thing, backed up by genuinely paid-for "democratic" bribery to the Canadian political parties.

    😆 🤣 And now.. And now..🤣 😆

    The Canadian government is today demanding that Facebook allow the linking even though it's the Canadian government's laws that tax and so forbid it.

    😆

    This timeline is so fucking cursed. I really hate it when Facebook is right.

    Though I do hate it more when people are all burning.

    cazabon,

    @pre As a Canadian techie, I was telling everyone who would listen that this was the obvious and unavoidable outcome if bill C-18 was passed.

    I wrote a (hopefully) funny thread about it.
    https://mindly.social/@cazabon/110857550275035974

    freezenet, to california
    @freezenet@noc.social avatar

    Referral Traffic From Facebook to News Sites in US Continues to Plummet

    US publishers are continuing to see a drop in news links referral traffic on Facebook. This as the US contemplated experimenting with link taxes.

    One of the core arguments by news companies is that platforms wholly depend on their news content to

    https://www.freezenet.ca/referral-traffic-from-facebook-to-news-sites-in-us-continues-to-plummet/

    danyork, to Canada
    @danyork@mastodon.social avatar

    Regarding Canada's terrible . @mmasnick nails it over on TechDirt:

    After Canada Starts Taxing News Links, Canadians Are Upset That They Can’t Follow News Of Wildfires On Facebook -

    https://www.techdirt.com/2023/08/18/after-canada-starts-taxing-news-links-canadians-are-upset-that-they-cant-follow-news-of-wildfires-on-facebook/

    tod, to random
    @tod@hci.social avatar

    The entire city of is being evacuated. This is unprecedented and terrifying.

    And thousands of citizens aren’t aware because Meta continues to block news in the country.

    This is what happens when citizens are convinced to use an American multinational corporation as their community’s primary communications channel — a corporation that couldn’t give two shits about anything except its “fiduciary duty” to shareholders.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/nwt-wildfire-emergency-update-august-16-1.6938756

    cazabon,

    @tod

    Regarding the blocking of Canadian news, can we at least place the where it belongs?

    convinced the of to pass a law forcing and to pay to show snippets of, and to, Canadian news articles.

    So Facebook and Google had a choice: they could continue to do this, and pay for the privilege, or they could stop linking to it. There was no third option.

    We forced the choice on them; blame our .

    cazabon,

    @not2b @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @tod

    Hear, hear. Exactly; it's a link tax. And financially, it makes no sense to pretty much anyone, so the companies choosing not to pay to link was both predictable, and in fact predicted by many, many people - pretty much everyone except members of the Canadian , , and anti-capitalism .

    kkarhan,
    @kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

    @tod Considering the cyberfacist bs called that is self-inflicted by the Canadian Govt.

    Not that I'd defend any - they are all evil!

    kkarhan,
    @kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

    @JustinLachance @tod No.

    I'm against as it's bad in principle and like a lot of "well-meant" ideas it'll do nothing but harm any , and .

    Just like the idea of @EU_Commission to force - only to pay in the customer's juristiction didn't actually hurt the but killed many like 's which had way better terms for and ...

    https://web.archive.org/web/20141125020445/http://www.androidpit.de/in-eigener-sache-androidpit-schliesst-sein-app-center

    kkarhan,
    @kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

    @JustinLachance @tod

    The only thing any and does is drive people from " [] Outlets" to questionable [tinfoilhatted] & whist propping up some in the form of that also require more and further !

    freezenet, to california
    @freezenet@noc.social avatar

    International Reaction to Bill C-18: How Do We Avoid Being the Next Canada?

    International attention to Bill C-18 is increasing. One question is on their mind: how do we avoid the failures of Bill C-18?

    The Canadian government was trying to become a golden standard for how to implemen

    https://www.freezenet.ca/international-reaction-to-bill-c-18-how-do-we-avoid-being-the-next-canada/

    cazabon, to anime_titties

    I think said something to the effect of, you can't show the a , act of in Act One unless the shoots itself in the foot with it in Act Three.

    @techdirt @CrazyITGuy42

    cazabon, (edited ) to journalism

    : Hey govt, do us a solid and make and give us .

    Govt: Uh, for what?

    CLM: You know, because they have money, and we can't figure out how to get some ourselves.

    Govt: I'm not sure...

    CLM: You're , and you'll get to publicly stand up to .

    Govt: Sold!

    Govt: Bill C-18 will make Big Tech for the of to Canadian media.

    1/x

    cazabon, (edited )

    Techies: 'Fraid not. You're trying to your , and it too.

    : We don't get it. How do you eat your cake if you don't have it?

    Techies: You didn't take any history classes, did you?

    CLM: Why would we need those?

    Techies: Anyways... as long as C-18 is in effect, you won't get any traffic or exposure.

    CLM: That sucks! Fix it!

    Techies: I give up.

    17/17

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