loops,
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Now in private beta, invites will be rolling out daily ✨ #loops

b0ngCloud,
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@loops honestly this might be the first time ever being hyped for the release of a social media platform lmao

adamsdesk,
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@loops I'm interested in finding out more about this project. I'll have to wait and see.

Natanox,
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@adamsdesk @misc @cliffwade @b0ngCloud @ern @dalekcoffee @gerrit @emaechler @CaptBobbers @nus @mikael

Y'all should take a look at this:

https://mastodon.social/@dansup/112331431372219817

Sorry if this is putting a dent in your excitement, I think people should know what Dan is actually doing with Loops though. Endless scrolling + algorithmic 'For You' page with proprietary algorithm owned by every instance, which in turn have to finance their huge server costs "somehow"… this is a TikTok'ish recipe for disaster.

gerrit,
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Natanox,
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@gerrit @adamsdesk @misc @cliffwade @b0ngCloud @ern @dalekcoffee @emaechler @CaptBobbers @nus @mikael

  • Endless scrolling with algorithmically tailored short-form content is proven to be highly addictive!

  • Closed algorithms can contain any kind of manipulative stuff.

  • High amount of user data (but barely anything else to sell / get money from) + high costs for "free" service = user data being sold eventually

My main three points. These problems are well known & Dan's running into them.

cliffwade,
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@Natanox If you don't like it or approve it, then simply don't use it and move on.

Social media in general is addictive, yet here we sit typing on Mastodon about why another platform is so bad.

In fact, the internet as a whole is bad in a lot of ways, yet again, here we are using it.

@gerrit @adamsdesk @misc @b0ngCloud @ern @dalekcoffee @emaechler @CaptBobbers @nus @mikael

Natanox,
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@cliffwade That's a techbro response helping literally nobody. On the contrary, because of this notion we're now living in a society where people are refused jobs because they can't be found on Facebook, Instagram or Twitter, one guy with tons of money can crash your social circle and democracy goes down the drain.

I'm arguing for a better web. If you don't like that, then simply ignore it and move on.
@gerrit @adamsdesk @misc @b0ngCloud @ern @dalekcoffee @emaechler @CaptBobbers @nus @mikael

cliffwade,
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@Natanox Gotcha and good luck!

Always remember, there's a right way to do things and a wrong way to do things.

I'll be moving on from this after this as it's simply pointless and useless.

@gerrit @adamsdesk @misc @b0ngCloud @dalekcoffee @emaechler @CaptBobbers @nus @mikael

gerrit,
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@Natanox @adamsdesk @misc @cliffwade @b0ngCloud @ern @dalekcoffee @emaechler @CaptBobbers @nus @mikael I would like to see scientific evidence for your point about endless scrolling. The rest is just guesses for now.

Besides, doesn’t it make sense to gradually develop a good alternative to TikToks, Reels, Shorts in the Fediverse?

cliffwade,
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@gerrit I hate to bust any bubbles here, but we all know these people don't have that kind of proof.

It's just them talking non-sense and hating on something simply because they can hate on something.

Literally nothing more to it. They hate to see someone else do good. It's literally that simple.

@Natanox @adamsdesk @misc @b0ngCloud @dalekcoffee @emaechler @CaptBobbers @nus @mikael

adamsdesk,
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@Natanox @misc @cliffwade @b0ngCloud @ern @dalekcoffee @gerrit @emaechler @CaptBobbers @nus @mikael Well I don't desire or want an algorithm. However, I can simply choose to not part take. I'm just interested in learning more about it, that doesn't mean I'll end up using it.

CaptBobbers,
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@adamsdesk
Yeah, I'm genuinely curious about the speeds it'll be able to playback video. Most of the short form video platforms are centralized which makes playback rapid and that ends up benefiting users. However, my experience with Peertube has been that is laggy AF depending on my proximity to the servers (example: European servers being laggy for me but ones in the states working decently).
@Natanox @misc @cliffwade @b0ngCloud @ern @dalekcoffee @gerrit @emaechler @nus @mikael

adamsdesk,
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@CaptBobbers Yes, that would be nice to see. For the most part peertube has been fine for me. @Natanox @misc @cliffwade @b0ngCloud @dalekcoffee @gerrit @emaechler @nus @mikael

root,
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@loops is the beta available for Android?

cliffwade,
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@loops Oh goodness! I really hope @dansup gets me invited as he said he would. I'm anxious to give this a try!

misc,
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