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Remmock, to climate in Italian Oil Giant Eni Knew About Climate Change More Than 50 Years Ago, Report Reveals
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  • thisisawayoflife,

    MCD sent it an email about this last week I think.

    MushuChupacabra, to climate in Climate Science Denial Rife at Launch of Jordan Peterson’s ARC Project
    @MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world avatar

    Why is the King of the Incels branching out to climate science denial?

    floofloof,

    Gotta collect all the bad ideas.

    Telorand,

    He’s so far up his own ass down the philosophy rabbit hole that he thinks climate science is a matter of philosophy…?

    chaogomu,

    He started out as a climate science denier.

    He once worked as an advisor to a politician/businessman who commented in a climate science report for the UN, So he's an expert (self-titled) on the subject. The actual report does disagree with his bullshit, but knowing that requires you to be the sort of person who looks things up and not blindly trust Jordan Peterson, so no one in his target audience.

    This very short video takes a look at some of Peterson's claims and actually starts off with the climate nonsense.

    mindbleach,

    It’s all the same tribalist grift. See Dan Olsen’s “Building A Flat Earth” and Innuendo Studios’s’s’ “Endnote: the Origins of Conservatism.” We’re dealing with people who figure someone’s got to be king, and don’t mean things when they say words. They only understand the world in terms of interpersonal trust. Like there’s some innate total hierarchy, for everything, where being higher up means you get the power to decide what’s real.

    And they think that’s all you’re doing, because they think that’s all there is.

    quicklime,

    well said!

    Stalinwolf,
    @Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca avatar

    He’s Albertan. Of course he is.

    Audrey0nne, to climate in Italian Oil Giant Eni Knew About Climate Change More Than 50 Years Ago, Report Reveals

    I imagine it would be like owning all the watermelons in the world. Life would be grand until one day you find out there’s a cheaper and more delicious fruit that would grow anywhere there’s is land for it. Sure you could use your watermelon money to convert the entire business over to this new marvel but wouldn’t it just be easier to use your massive funds to suppress and destroy this new dangerous fruit until the world forgets about it? Besides you’ve already invested heavily in watermelons, it would just be bad business sense to let them go to waste. You might as well cash all your stock out before the inevitable collapse in the market for them. One could never keep the truth suppressed for long but might as well make as money as you can before the cat’s out of the bag.

    floofloof,

    it’s like that but you also knew that watermelons were destroying the world so that your children’s or grandchildren’s lives would be hell, and you went ahead anyway.

    guriinii, to climate in Fossil Fuel Firms Flock to UK Conservative Party Conference

    Well I’ll be outside shouting at the cunts with 1000s of others.

    Aux, to climate in Anti-ULEZ Protest Group Promotes Conspiracy Theories and Climate Science Denial

    Farage is such a twat!

    withersailor, to climate in Rishi Sunak Boasts That Oil Funded Think Tank ‘Helped Us Draft’ Crackdown on Climate Protests

    DeSmog revealed in March that the Conservative Party received £3.5 million from fossil fuel interests, high-polluters and climate science deniers last year alone.

    Industry buying government.

    cerement,
    @cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

    all for a measly initial investment of $30,000 …

    iiGxC, to climate in A Vaccine for Climate Misinformation | Facts aren’t enough to combat false and misleading messaging. Experts suggest an additional strategy.
    sonori, to climate in IEA Think Tank Contributes to Climate Science Denial Documentary
    @sonori@beehaw.org avatar

    For the confused, the article is talking about the Institute for Economic Affairs IEA, a neoconservative think thank focusing on free market economics, and not the more well known International Energy Agency.

    eskimofry,

    I was actually confused why IKEA was contributing somehow forming a connection between them and large scale logging… until I read your comment and re-read the title.

    sonori,
    @sonori@beehaw.org avatar

    Ya, I read a lot about disasters so when I first read it added an A and thought it was referring to the International Atomic Energy Agency, (IAEA) which studies and helps clean up after radiation incidents like broken or stolen radioactive medical equipment, reactor excursions, and other such incidents.

    After I reread the acronym I was like I could swear the IEA was an energy agency that published a lot of stats on green energy and yet their talking about neoconservative economics?

    At least think tanks like The (White) Heritage Foundation have somewhat memorable names and don’t use a legitimate organization’s name.

    homesweethomeMrL, to climate in Big Oil Clouded the Science on Extreme Weather. Now It Faces a Reckoning.

    Believe it when I see it.

    natarey, to climate in Big Oil Clouded the Science on Extreme Weather. Now It Faces a Reckoning.

    Yeah, but do they, though? I’ve heard this before, and they’re as indifferent now as they’ve ever been.

    silence7,

    There are a ton of lawsuits. It’ll come down to how courts rule, and we may well get different results in different countries.

    natarey, (edited )

    I’ve heard that before, too. I’m in the US, so I’ve got reason to be pessimistic about the reliability of the courts when it comes to holding wealthy people and corporations accountable.

    GrymEdm, to climate in Big Oil Clouded the Science on Extreme Weather. Now It Faces a Reckoning.

    I’m not going to get my hopes up for a reckoning until they are actually paying. Poor public opinion and isolated lawsuits are not meaningful until it’s costing the companies more than they earned via their decades of horribly irresponsible practices and outright lies. Anything less and it’s just a reduction in net profits, not an actual punishment.

    Taking Exxon Mobil as an example: they apparently made $55.74B net income in 2022, a 141.93% increase from 2021. Even if these lawsuits were WILDLY successful and Exxon had to pay 20B in one-time settlements, that’s not even half a year’s net income and no deterrent.

    lettruthout,

    Agreed. First the US should stop any form of financial support for the fossil fuel industry, then no longer issue drilling permits. In the same time more lawsuits and fines. Yeah the companies will raise their profits to remain flush with profit, but that will incentivize the transition to other energy storage systems for transportation, heating, etc.

    silence7,

    Actual damage is many times larger than aggregate profits of all the oil companies. They’re in business due to control over government, rather than because of fair payment for the damage they do.

    peter, to worldnews in Meat Industry Using ‘Misinformation’ to Block Dietary Change, Report Finds
    @peter@feddit.uk avatar

    I’m fairly certain PETA is funded by the meat industry to discredit animal rights activists

    Rom, (edited ) to worldnews in Meat Industry Using ‘Misinformation’ to Block Dietary Change, Report Finds
    @Rom@hexbear.net avatar

    It is 1933. The lead industry is lying about the dangers of their product.

    It is 1953. The tobacco industry is lying about the dangers of their product.

    It is 1967. The sugar industry is lying about the dangers of their product.

    It is 1977. The oil industry is lying about the dangers of their product.

    It is 1993. The dairy industry is lying about the dangers of their product.

    It is 2024. The meat industry is lying about the dangers of their product.

    manhattan

    ryannathans,

    Dairy… dangers?

    Dangy,

    Search up “dairy is scary” on your favorite video hosting site

    ryannathans,

    Lmao this garbage is vegan extremist propaganda, I have been to dairy farms, I know people that own and work in dairy farms, this video just shows the worst cases of abuse and portrays it as normal. It doesn’t even follow basic reason, like why artificially inseminate all these cows when a bull works just fine? All these clips of people assaulting and dragging cows around portrayed as normal? Seriously? Even abatoirs have animal wellbeing officers these days

    naevaTheRat,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    So extreme, not wanting to treat feeling beings as property and kill them.

    The most extreme of extremism

    leaky_shower_thought,

    go, go product dangers!

    …Mighty morphin’ product dangers~

    naturalgasbad, to worldnews in Meat Industry Using ‘Misinformation’ to Block Dietary Change, Report Finds

    It’s specifically the beef industry, which is simultaneously a huge source of methane emissions, a huge land user for cattle ranching, worse for human health, and, coincidentally, a significant US agricultural output.

    shreddy_scientist,
    @shreddy_scientist@lemmy.ml avatar

    While beef is a big aspect of the overall agricultural industry, cattle feed requires roughly 3/4 of all US grown crops. Meaning with less beef consumption, the total US agricultural output would increase. But veggies aren’t subsidized to the same extent as beef and corporations value profit over everything.

    FriendBesto, (edited )

    But we do need meat to survive. There are a number of nutrients we cannot get from plants. Including among them B12. Maybe fish then?

    Well let’s fact check this:

    ars.usda.gov/…/study-clarifies-us-beefs-resource-…

    “The seven regions’ combined beef cattle production accounted for 3.3 percent of all U.S. GHG emissions (By comparison, transportation and electricity generation together made up 56 percent of the total in 2016 and agriculture in general 9 percent)”

    3.3% of total USA emissions? In what planet is less 3.3% huge? I would say that we need food over lots of others industries. Also, apparently if you feed cattle seaweed, it reduces emissions. At about 1/4 I have read between 1/5 to 1/3. Look it up, this article says 80%+ which seems too high.

    phys.org/…/2021-03-seaweed-supplements-livestock-…

    Anyway, wht about rich people, Bill Gates, Bezos, movie stars and politicians using private jets everywhere? How come that never really gets touched on or heaviy pushed in the news media? Which clearly use at least about the same.or more per capita. What about something as wasteful as the cruise ship industry?

    How bad are cruise ships for the environment?

    theweek.com/…/how-the-cruise-industry-is-pivoting…

    Traditional diesel-powered cruise ships pump out massive quantities of toxic emissions, experts say. While the entire shipping industry emits “2.9% of globalcarbon dioxide emissions,” cruise ships “produce more carbon dioxide annually on average than any other kind of ship due to their air conditioning, heated pools and other hotel amenities,” The Associated Press reported, citing a study from the European Federation for Transport and Environment.

    It seems weird that people do not focus on this but on an actuap food source. We do not need cruise ships and crazy private jets more. Not to say that Big corps are not assholes, big pharma, big oil, big sugar, all are, among others.

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