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tsonfeir, to politics in Why cancer-causing pollution from oil refineries is falling: In an environmental success story, refineries have reduced their emissions of benzene due to federal regulations and oversight.
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I’m sure the Republicans will do something to stop this, and blame the Democrats

bluGill,
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Blame everyone. My brother-in-law works for a refinery. They get beat up in the news and by politicians all the time, but when they need something it always happens - even in California. Which shouldn't surprise - people say they want things like clean air until they discover it means gas prices go up (or they can't drive their car at all) and suddenly they don't care are all.

surewhynotlem,

Oh yes, it’s the minimum wage worker who is at fault because they need gas to drive the only available means of conveyance. Surely if they just walked the twenty miles to work, we’d breathe easier.

bluGill,
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Why are you blaming the minimum wage worker? It is everybody with a car which is the vast majority of the adult population. Poor, middle class, rich - all of them care about gas prices and scream when they go up.

surewhynotlem,

Sarcasm is meant to drive introspection. My point was that, in your wide reaching claim of “blame everyone”, YOU include the minimum wage worker with no options. In fact, I’d argue that most Americans have no reasonable option to cars. I’d also argue that this is by design and mostly influenced by oil producing companies and the politicians they have bought.

But if you think that we can solve this crisis by blaming people with no options, then please help me understand how that works.

bluGill,
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People have no options because everyone collectively hasn't created them. Sure a few people vote for transit, bike lanes and the like, but not many. (and the poor are not better than anyone else at this) . There are options - you can move closer to work, get a different job that is closer to where you live, get a bike, carpool, ride transit.... Those all bad options for most people but they exist and so they choose them.

nilloc, to politics in Why cancer-causing pollution from oil refineries is falling: In an environmental success story, refineries have reduced their emissions of benzene due to federal regulations and oversight.

Now do natural gas methane leaks.

disguy_ovahea,

The largest controllable methane contributors are livestock and landfills. They need systemic reform, like lab-grown meat or incinerate and capture systems. You can’t stop a cow from farting with legislation.

nilloc,

I agree about the meat and dairy infrastructures. And grain production to, which basically turns diesel fuel into junk-food.

But the leaks from natural gas methane delivery, production and use are much easier to stop though, and would help the supposed greenhouse savings from switching to gas over coal.

FatLegTed, to climate in Trump just made more promises to oil industry campaign donors
@FatLegTed@piefed.social avatar

Why on earth would anyone else want their picture taken with him?

MegaUltraChicken, to politics in Trump just made more promises to oil industry campaign donors

Fuck that article is terrifying. We are absolutely fucked if Biden loses in November.

ThePyroPython,

Get your guns before November.

You’d rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

silence7,

Here’s the thing: if it comes down to private individuals and guns, we’ve already lost.

Way better off giving that money to Democratic campaigns or spending it on travel to a swing district or state to canvass voters.

CosmicTurtle0,

I think what @ThePyroPython is trying to say is that if Trump wins, the odds of oppression by the alt-right are pretty high.

Keep in mind that Biden got put into office because of people in states willing to do the right thing.

Many Secretaries of States have already indicated that they won’t certify elections if they feel that there may have been issues and we all know that they are going to be “issues” if Biden wins.

We’re literally, not figuratively, facing the death of democracy this November.

Rentlar, (edited )

Don’t forget downballot in your state races either. The supreme court basically made partisan gerrymandering legal, and racial gerrymandering legal if you can pretend it’s just partisan gerrymandering. So this could be the last slew of elections where you may have a fair shot in many states.

Sanctus, to politics in Trump just made more promises to oil industry campaign donors
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Pick the spot to build your seitch now.

SpaceNoodle, to climate in Trump just made more promises to oil industry campaign donors

Nobody with any power gives a shit.

henfredemars,

Sure they do. They’re taking notes from where to get their bribes and kickbacks in the future because the Supreme Court is already full.

OpenStars, to climate in The brutal heat in Mexico is causing howler monkeys to drop dead from trees
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This is only a taste of what it means to “own the libs” - the rich get richer while the rest… simply die.

A very heart-warming article though, thanks for sharing!:-)

alsaaas,
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libs are part of the problem, I would say theh sabotage the fight against global warming even more than any conservative ever could…

Why?

They create the illusion of acting against it and react to a few symptoms at best. Their main purpose is to approriate progreasive tendencies/movements/ideas and dull them down rill they have absolutely no teeth left.

Everything to protect capitalism, the dictatorship of a few rich bastards, their lackeys (“professional” politicians of all stripes) and collaborators (libs at large) holding the whole planet hostage just for the economy’s rich people’s yatch money’s sake

tl;dr: we can live under socialism or we can live under water

OpenStars,
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By that logic, are conservatives the best possible support for the planet? By killing off humanity, we might give it its best fighting shot at longevity for future lifeforms!:-D

And no, I don’t think socialism is the answer. We’ll kill ourselves before we ever consider sharing the tiniest bit. :-( To clarify, that is not a “I want to” statement, that is a depressed “Sadly, this is what will happen” one…:-( Maybe. Probably. Hopefully not, but likely. We’ll see.

Hobbes_Dent, to politics in Trump just made more promises to oil industry campaign donors

Fuck him and everyone who agrees with him. What a depressing read.

Spazz, to politics in Why cancer-causing pollution from oil refineries is falling: In an environmental success story, refineries have reduced their emissions of benzene due to federal regulations and oversight.

What, regulations work?

No way!

JoMiran, to climate in The brutal heat in Mexico is causing howler monkeys to drop dead from trees
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar
DarkenLM,

This is Mr Bones Wild Ride. No-one can leave.

Crackhappy, to climate in The brutal heat in Mexico is causing howler monkeys to drop dead from trees
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I absolutely hate monkeys, they’re little shits. But this is awful and I hope a solution is found.

silence7,

We already know what the solution is:

  • Stop burning fossil fuels
  • End deforestation
  • Stop using a few refrigerants and industrial gases which are greenhouse gases

The IPCC has the details on what we’d need to do over the next few years to get started

Pretzilla, to politics in Why cancer-causing pollution from oil refineries is falling: In an environmental success story, refineries have reduced their emissions of benzene due to federal regulations and oversight.

Exactly the regs Cheeto promises the oil companies he will get rid of if they raise $1B for his reelection

beebarfbadger, to climate in Canada’s fire season erupts, sending harmful smoke into United States

That headline sounds like it only significantly affects the US. Are those fires school shooters?

dogsnest, to politics in Why cancer-causing pollution from oil refineries is falling: In an environmental success story, refineries have reduced their emissions of benzene due to federal regulations and oversight.
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

Waiting for DeSantis to overturn and rescind the Federal regulations in 3…2…

silence7,

He can’t — preemption means federal rules override state ones.

dogsnest,
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

…/s

nilloc,

You were right without the /s. Descrutum will try anyway if it will put his shitty state in the news. Even if it’s just another frivolous lawsuit.

Reverendender, to usa in A Hidden Threat | Fast-rising seas could swamp septic systems in parts of the South

Fast-rising seas could definitely are going to (and much sooner than anyone wants to admit) swamp septic systems in parts of the South

silence7,

Pretty much. But it hasn’t happened yet, so the editors force “could” instead of “will”

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