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Bad_Company_Daps, to news in Plane crash children found alive after 40 days in jungle, officials say

Which one of them broke piggy's glasses?

nhgeek,

Huh? Then as soon as I typed it… click. Lord of the Flies

Hirom, to news in Plane crash children found alive after 40 days in jungle, officials say

The Organization of the Indigenous Peoples of the Colombian Amazon said in a statement that their survival is a sign of a “knowledge and relationship with the natural environment of life,” which is “learned from the mother’s womb and practiced from a very early age.”

That makes sense. It seems unlikely you'd survive in the jungle unless you already know the basics.

Bluetreefrog, to news in Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance

It's almost as if stiffing his previous lawyers has made people wary. Strange.

Voodoo, to news in Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance

Thanks for gifting the WaPo article. Interesting stuff. Will he choose the scorched earth defense or the "flip one jurist" strategy. My guess is the former. He can't help himself.

possiblylinux127, to news in Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance

I disagree with the trump trials. They are politically charged and set a precedent of arresting your political opponents. I'm not saying he's innocent or guilty but we should consider the bias

Radicalized,

I’m sorry, but do you believe that Joe Biden personally had trump arrested? lmao

cryball,

Dark brandon is coming for all of your nuclear secrets. Especially those that you forgot in a bathroom.

Tolookah,

The only nuclear secrets in my bathroom are after chipotle.

ImFresh3x,

1)Read the indictment. There is a tape where he breaks the law and then acknowledges that’s it’s illegal and proceeds to break the law more. That single law has a sentencing guideline of 10 years.

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2023/06/trump-indictment.pdf

2)special council is insulated from AG and WH

3)the judge is a trump appointee

4)It doesn’t set a precedent for shit. He broke the law. He will have his day in court.

601error,
@601error@lemmy.ca avatar

If not a trial, then what should be done if he is suspected of a crime? Just ignore it?

mustyOrange,

Dude he stole highly, highly classified material, didn't give it back when asked, lost some it, and had it stored in a bathroom.

That's far beyond politically charged. Read the indictment. Not all charges brought to politicians are theater. This is absolutely one of those times

thesanewriter,

I think it would set an extremely bad precedent if we made it that you can never arrest or try former presidents. Being able to try and hold the president to justice brings us closer to the national ideal of the president being a servant of the people, allowing them to act with legal impunity would bring us closer to the president being a dictator or a king.

possiblylinux127,

I'm not saying that presidents should have a get out if jail free card. However the trials feel a lot like left vs right to me.

breadsmasher,
@breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

If it’s left vs right to you that implies to me you see it as

the left - justice and accountability

the right - grift, fascism, “fuck you i got mine”

Wanna know a secret? you wont be a millionaire.

mantisteabaggin,

Then it’s clear you’ve either not paid any attention to the goings on the last 7 or 8 years, or you’re being disingenuous.

liontigerwings,

So what your saying is presidents should be able to do whatever they want just because they're politicians.

possiblylinux127,

Well no but I am concerned that is will become a pattern. Trump has already stated that he will prosecute biden if he is reelected. I doubt he is going to be reelected but its possible a republican controlled Congress should decide to take biden to court.

I obviously don't support policially charged trials but some conservatives do

Da_Boom,
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Idk, from my point of view this looks like a result of the DOJ noticing they were missing classified documents and, after attempting to get them back via the usual means aking official requests, they had no choice but to initiate legal action in order to get them back.

Honestly, I doubt the current government had much involvement of at all in this case. Every previous president after receiving official requests for documents in their possession has returned said documents, trump is the first to not do so, and to actively (according to evidence) obstruct the DOJ from regaining said documents.

More likely the politically charged situation, and the current widening political divide has actually made it harder to prosecute this case - One wrong or hasty move at the wrong time and you've got the potential for a even worse repeat of Jan 6th on your hands.

Trying to prosecute a case where the defendant has built a cult of personality around himself is incredibly difficult and infuriatingly so, as the people that make up that cult believes everything said defendant says, and refuses to look at the facts even if they're right in front of them with blaring sirens and flashing lights, doing an Irish jig.

a253040,

What would unbiased accountability look like to you? If the roles were reversed, Trump would be shouting "Lock him up!" in front of crowds every day. No one is doing this to him now (except in jest), because it's expected that his trial be fair.

Read the full indictment. It's clear he understood what he was doing was illegal and he didn't care, and it's clear he was aware it was not in the country's best interest. He was given many chances to make it right and failed to do so. He's been treated more fairly than he'd have done to his political opponents.

He needs to be held accountable. He put himself above the country, and it can't happen like this again. If a federal trial in front of a red state jury isn't fair, I don't know what would satisfy you.

archangel42,

Anything around Trump is politically charged. That doesn't give him carte blanche to flagrantly break the law.

CMLVI,

Laws don't care about biases. He didn't break the law because he was Republican, he broke the law because he's a moron. And then he said it on tape. And also on that tape, he said he was breaking the law, and explained how he was doing it.

The simple solution for not getting arrested by political opponents is...don't break the law. I do it every day and I'm yet to be arrested.

Essential7220,

Oh god I wish there is a downvote button here.

Da_Boom,
@Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Some instances have the downvotes enables some don't.

I got one over here at iusearchlinux.fyi! In fact it's one of the reasons I chose this instance.

The other being haha funny true meme instance name.

EDIT:

Here is a list of instances and what capabilities they each have enabled

https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances

bdiddy,

yeah that's one major downside to lemmy. Forced to see these sort of braindead takes lol

cap_net_admin,

It's up to the instance admins to choose if they want to present the downvote button. Use another instance.

matzah,

Honestly, I kind of like if. Stops it from becoming an echo chamber. Refreshing to hear pure, unhinged lunacy, too.

bdiddy,

lol. I mean yeah I get what you are saying, but I know these people exist already because our own politicians are saying the same thing… Completely ignoring the indictment and that this is just an attack blah blah… Yet they wont comment on the actual charges. Sad really. Good chance for everyone to talk about how justice will prevail one way or the other through our justice system and that no one is above the law. Instead they are literally saying that the ex president is literally above the law. Need a RL downvote button

Banzai51, to news in Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance
@Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

Coordinated delay tactic. His goal is to delay until he is President again and pardon himself.

fhjmel,

That’s completely wild to me that a president can pardon himself. Wtf?

Banzai51,
@Banzai51@midwest.social avatar

I don't think the President can, but that won't stop the orange one.

Rentlar, to news in Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance

Trump should get one of those sovrin sitizin types to defend him.

SQL_InjectMe, to climate in Vietnam faces many risks with climate change. Why is it jailing activists?

Vietnam has to import coal from China, why would they target activists wanting to lower their dependency on coal? I’m not buying it

silence7,

Because they're activists, and any kind of organized activism is considered a political threat.

mem_somerville_kbin, to science in Florida’s smallest citrus crop in a century to put squeeze on shoppers
mem_somerville_kbin avatar

This should be a gifted article over to WaPo. I put a tag on it, but I have no idea how to find it.

Jode, to science in Florida’s smallest citrus crop in a century to put squeeze on shoppers

"how do we get in on this 'supply chain issues' pricing?"

chainsaw starts whirring

clover, to climate in Hidden beneath the surface | Digging deep into a humble lake in Canada, scientists found a spot on Earth like no other — and a record that could redefine our history of the planet

What a beautifully presented article. Thanks for sharing.

BootlegHermit, to climate in Three states just barred utilities from charging customers for lobbying

"That’s about to change in three states — Colorado, Connecticut and Maine — that recently passed laws to prohibit this practice. "

Saved everyone a click.

stefanlaser, to climate in Vietnam to get billions for climate change while jailing environmentalists

Informative and unfortunate. Economic growth is the single goal of the CPV and guarantees its power. Climate and ecological claims endanger the social order, so 👨‍⚖️

MisterMoo, to climate in Its promised land drying, Mormon Church works to save the Great Salt Lake
MisterMoo avatar

You’d think their god would have warned them, say, twenty or fifty years ago to begin conservation efforts.

FfaerieOxide, to Biotechnology in Opinion | How I learned to love toxic chemicals
FfaerieOxide avatar

Monsanto has in the past planted and ghostwrit articles alleging positive assertions about the cancer-causeing herbicide glyphosate.

While I can't prove it is happening in this case, it does seem serving the end of sewing skepticism, and it was published by a paper Bayer (maker of Roundup) buys ads in.
And also buys articles in.

mem_somerville_kbin,
mem_somerville_kbin avatar

So you are saying the park service and this author is on the take? You are quite the sleuth.

Also, try reading it.

FfaerieOxide,
FfaerieOxide avatar

If you see where I wrote

I can't prove it is happening in this case

you will thence gather I was saying no such thing.

I insinuated the author might be on the take.
I'll go ahead and state outright here The Washington Post absolutely is on the take.
Jeff Bezos (the paper's owner) is "the take", even if there hadn't been links in my post showing financial ties between the paper and the manufacturer.
It doesn't matter if the rangers are on the take or not, as they did not write the story. Neither did they propagate it.
Some people did write and publish this and they had a reason to.

I merely proffered some info one might consider as they ponder who those people are and what those reasons might be.

It's might be because RoundUp tastes like lemonade and Bezos really wants we should know.
It is absolutely to make The Washington Post profit.
It may well be to shape public opinion a certain way.

All things a reader of the article should attempt suss.

Also, try reading it.

I thank you for your concern but I assure you I did prior to commenting on it. Reading it, in fact, was how I was able to assert it, "serv[ed] the end of skewing skepticism" with such confidence.

Further, it's how I know it's odd a man who doesn't appear to be operating an industrial nor agricultural tree growing operation is singing the praises of residential-use RoundUp that won't even be obtainable legally in six months.

mem_somerville_kbin,
mem_somerville_kbin avatar

Please take your conspiracy theories elsewhere. And if you have issues with the science of conservation--and think you are more qualified than the park service folks who actually do this for a living, you can take it up with them.

I'm sorry you are so troubled with bogey men. It must make your life very difficult.

FfaerieOxide,
FfaerieOxide avatar

You are coming off quite adversarial. I question why that is.

Were I to guess, I'd say the article gives moral license to use a product you have unexamined doubts about and you are channeling the cognitive dissonance impugning its impartiality causes into combativeness.

If I were to guess. As I've no desire to get into this with someone I believe to be engaging in less-than-perfect faith, I won't presume to guess.

I am certain your propensity to post positively about Monsanto products is down to something as innocuous as a special interest.
The abrasive way you address others I will chalk to not sleeping well, or perhaps a personality quirk.

Regardless, I hope you have a fantastic rest of your day.

mem_somerville_kbin,
mem_somerville_kbin avatar

I imagine you have a conspiracy theory about me already too. Too bad you can't deal with the facts.

There's only one rule on this magazine, and you broke it. So goodbye.

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