happyborg,
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If your project is , or , you are now probably one of the bad guys.

If you don't know why this is bad:

Same for contributing to projects with permissive licensing.

As copyright owner of a project you can be a good guy again: switch to

Also stop contributing to other projects that won't switch, after politely explaining why you have a problem with their .

And avoid using those projects when you can.

happyborg,
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BTW, 'guys' is intended to be gender neutral. Next time I'll say folks to clarify. I pretty much ignore gender, and have been using it that way for a long time so it's a habit, but apologise if any folks feel that excludes them.

Nobody has actually said that re themselves BTW.

happyborg,
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I'm grateful for the different perspectives on this, and the supporting boosts and favourites.

I don't have time to debate because I'm writing GPL code, and submitting the odd PR. But I note none of the dissenting replies have addressed the foundation of my argument about enclosure, power and the harm it is doing. You don't get that or don't care it seems.

Thanks for the interactions. Disagreement is fine. Going your own way is fine. Acting as if I said otherwise. 🤔

Now back to code.

pieq,
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@happyborg Redis is not really a problem because of the license, it's a problem because of the CLA that allowed the company behind Redis to "pull the rug" under every contributor's feet.

Please read this comment about the different licenses and how they all fit specific use cases:

https://discourse.writefreesoftware.org/t/what-is-your-current-go-to-license/60/6

bkrawczyk,
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@pieq @happyborg Redis (and Elasticsearch earlier) was never a problem. Don't like it? Fork it.

Oh, but you don't want to put in the work, right?

happyborg,
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@bkrawczyk forking would be fine but not - for me - at a cost of contributing to the system of enclosure and stealing from the commons.

You're not the only one with strong views, but you and I have different priorities.

@pieq

bkrawczyk,
@bkrawczyk@fosstodon.org avatar

@happyborg @pieq
well yours is to use shaming to coerce everybody to use a viral GPL license.

It's not black and white.

happyborg,
@happyborg@fosstodon.org avatar

@bkrawczyk
That's why I used the word probably.

@pieq

bkrawczyk,
@bkrawczyk@fosstodon.org avatar

@happyborg if you wish, publish your code on whichever license you want.

Stop shaming and blaming developers that donate their time and code to everybody.

Not everybody wants a viral license.

Your toot is harmful. Shaming and blaming others will have an effect of them not giving a damn about open source. is not the answer to everything. There are dozens of licenses to choose from. Why do you try to polarize the community?

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