A few people might be wondering why I'm creating a #Calckey server that expressly doesn't federate with #Meta.
It's because I personally do not like Meta, and I would like there to be a space that's free of Meta. Again, I'm not saying anyone is a bad person should they federate with Meta. On certain lobby servers I run, I will federate with them.
But I also think it's important for people to have a choice on whether or not they connect with Meta. For this reason, I'd like to offer a "not Meta" choice with notmeta.social.
@atomicpoet I really like that you're not religious about this. You're in favour of creating spaces that work for users and recognise that different users have different needs, values, and desires.
Practically speaking, notmeta.social will need to federate with servers that federate with Meta -- but not Meta.
Why is that?
So that people on Meta-federated servers can easily migrate their accounts to notmeta.social. You see, if we don't federate with those servers, account migration won't be possible. And I want to make it easy for people to migrate over to a server that doesn't federate with Meta.
Nevertheless, notmeta.social will not federate with any Meta-owned servers.
@atomicpoet Do you have a primer for how Meta might bring about EEE? I keep seeing it thrown around, in a purely hypothetical sense, but not actual, potential outcomes. I'd rather be rational about what to expect.
Leaning on W3C to bend ActivityPub to their advantage? Becoming effectively the singular AP instance and, once enough buy in exists, turn off federation? I can't see it just looking to hoover data,anyone can crawl public posts right now.
@jovikowi@tehstu I looked at all the examples, and none of them ultimately worked. Most people don’t use a Microsoft browser. There’s more office document compatibility now than there was 20 years ago. Microsoft failed to corner the server market.
It's late, my brain is tired. I really don't want to argue, especially with you. Especially with you.
So I deleted my next paragraph and will skip ahead to the good stuff...
I'm delighted with the clever and compassionate solution that you've come up with, and that you've been so quick to make it happen. Thank you so very much!
I've said this a bunch elsewhere, and others may disagree -- the best and highest purpose of the Mastodon protocol really is to make ONE BIG UNIVERSAL FEDERATED space (that isn't owned and doesn't suck), not to create a bunch of little deals, which can be done by other tools.
So essentially a DMZ approach. I like it in concept. Of course, the question is why anyone would move from Meta to a DMZ server. If you don't mind Meta being around, it's far more convenient to stay on Meta. And if you want to avoid Meta, moving from Meta to the DMZ doesn't improve anything.
@atomicpoet@isomeme options are what make the Fediverse interesting and making those options explicit and purposeful can help move people too, even if it is just a temporary stopping place. What we REALLY need in order for this to be as convenient as we are imagining is full profile/follower/following portability between servers.
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