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br00t4c, to meta
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'It's obviously nice to have Taylor Swift': A Meta executive on Threads vs. Elon Musk's X

https://qz.com/meta-threads-x-taylor-swift-facebook-elon-musk-social-1851467377

jsrailton, (edited ) to psychology
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I can confidently diagnose as sociopaths.

Promised therapy customers privacy...then gave their mental health info to advertisers.

Victims get less than ten bucks each.

Company made billion+ in revenue last year alone.

In a just society with good privacy laws, they'd face existential civil & criminal consequences.

https://www.wcnc.com/article/news/nation-world/betterhelp-therapy-class-action-settlement-refund/507-b4ef5e0f-c722-4562-95e9-c3cdd7738d1a

J12t, to privacy
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"Navigating User Privacy in the Decentralized Social Web".

Online webinar, sponsored by Meta.

Just fluttered into my inbox.

https://www.privacylaws.com/events-gateway/events/fediverse2024/

stina_marie, to meta
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Fuck off . Please also take note Apple™ & Google™ and every other fucking company foisting and forcing this bullshit on us.

I'm so glad I barely use FB and gave up on IG long ago. They were trash fires before, and they've now guaranteed that I will continue to forever avoid them, with the burning passion of a million furious suns.

@horror

Picture is of a man putting something into a trash receptacle slot built into the wall that has a sign above it that says "PLEASE PLACE TRASH HERE" His hands are shown with the Meta AI graphic in it as he prepares to throw it into the slot The text above/across the man says EVERYBODY

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Zuckerman vs: Zuckerberg: why and how this is a battle of the public understanding of APIs, and why Zuckerman needs to lose and Meta needs to win

Imagine that you’re a cool, high-school, technocultural teenager; you’ve been raised reading Cory Doctorow’s “Little Brother” series, you have a 3D printer, a soldering iron, you hack on Arduino control systems for fun, and you really, really want a big strobe light in your bedroom to go with the music that you blast-out when your parents are away.

So you build a stepper-motor with a wheel and a couple of little arms, link it to a microphone circuit which does a FFT of ambient sound, and hot-glue the whole thing to your bedroom lightswitch so that the wheel’s arms can flick the lightswitch on-and-off in time to the beat.

If you’re lucky the whole thing will work for a minute or two and then the switch will break, because it wasn’t designed to be flicked on-and-off ten times per second; or maybe you’ll blow the lightbulb. If you’re very unlucky the entire switch and wiring will get really hot, arc, and set fire to the building. And if you share, distribute, and encourage your friends to do the same then you’re likely to be held liable in one of several ways if any of them suffer cost or harm.

Who am I?

My name’s Alec. I am a long-term blogger and an information, network and cyber security expert. From 1992-2009 I worked for Sun Microsystems, from 2013-16 I worked for Facebook, and today I am a full-time stay at home dad and part-time consultant. For more information please see my “about” page.

What does this have to do with APIs?

Before I begin I want to acknowledge the work of Kin Lane, The API Evangelist, who has been writing about the politics of APIs for many years. I will not claim that Kin and I share the same views on everything, but we appear to overlap perspectives on a bunch of topics and a lot of the discussion surrounding his work resonates with my perspectives. Go read his stuff, it’s illuminating.

So what is an API? My personal definition is broad but I would describe an API as any mechanism that offers a public or private contract to observe (query, read) or manipulate (set, create, update, delete) the state of a resource (device, file, or data).

In other words: a light switch. You can use it to turn the light on if it’s off, or off if it’s on, and maybe there’s a “dimmer” to set the brightness if the bulb is compatible; but light switches have their physical limitations and expected modes of use, and they need to be chosen or designed to fit the desired usage model and purpose.

Perhaps to some this definition sounds a little too broad because it would literally include referring to (e.g.) “in-browser HTML widgets and ‘submit’ buttons for deleting friendships” as an “API”; but the history of computing is rife with human-interface elements being repurposed as application-interfaces, such as banking where it was once fashionable to link new systems to old backend mainframes by using software that pretends to be a traditional IBM 3270 terminal and then screen-scraping responses to queries which were “typed” into the terminal by the new system.

The modern equivalent for web-browsers is called Selenium WebDriver and is widely used by both automated software testers and criminal bot-farms, to name but two purposes.

So yes: the tech industry — or perhaps: the tech hacker/user community — has a long history of wiring programmable motors to light switches and hoping that their house does not catch on fire… but we should really aspire to do better than that… and that’s where we come to the history of EBay and Twitter.

History of Public APIs

In the early 2000s there was a proliferation of platforms that offered various services — “I can buy books over the internet? That’s amazing!” — and this was all before the concept of a “Public API” was invented.

People wanted to “add-value” or “auto-submit” or “retrieve data” from those platforms, or even to build “alternative clients”; so they examined the HTML, reverse-engineered the functions of Internal or Private APIs which made the platform work, wrote and shared ad-hoc tools that posted and scraped data, and published their work as hackerly acts of radical empowerment “on behalf of the users” … except for those tools which stole or misused your data.

Kin Lane particularly describes the launch of the Public APIs for EBay in November 2000 and for Twitter in September 2006; about the former he writes:

The eBay API was originally rolled out to only a select number of licensed eBay partners and developers. […] The eBay API was a response to the growing number of applications that were already relying on its site either legitimately or illegitimately. The API aimed to standardize how applications integrated with eBay, and make it easier for partners and developers to build a business around the eBay ecosystem.

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…and regarding the latter:

On September 20, 2006 Twitter introduced the Twitter API to the world. Much like the release of the eBay API, Twitter’s API release was in response to the growing usage of Twitter by those scraping the site or creating rogue APIs.

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…both of which hint at some issues:

  1. an ecosystem of ad-hoc tools that attempt to blindly and retrospectively track EBay’s own platform development would not offer standardisation across the tools that use those APIs, and so would thereby actually limit potential for third-party client development; each tool would be working with different assumed “contracts” of behaviour that were never meant to be fixed or exposed to the public, and would also replicate work
  2. proliferation of man-in-the-middle “services” that would act “on your behalf” — and with your credentials — on the Twitter and EBay platforms, presented both a massive trust and security risk to the user (fraudulent purchases? fake tweets? stolen credentials?) with consequent reputational risk to the platform

Why do Public APIs exist?

In short: to solve these problems. Kin Lane writes a great summary on the pros-and-cons of Public APIs and how they are used both to enable, but also to (possibly unfairly) limit, the power of third party clients that offer extra value to a platform’s users.

But at the most fundamental level: Public APIs exist in order to formalise contracts of adequate means by which third-parties can observe or manipulate “state” (e.g.; user data, postings, friendships, …) on the platform.

By offering a Public API the platform frees itself also to develop and use Private APIs which can service other or new aspects of platform functionality, and it’s in a position to build and “ring-fence” the Public API service in the expectation of both heavy use and abuse being submitted through it.

Similarly: the Private APIs can be engineered more simply to act like domestic light-switches: to be used in limited ways and at human speeds; it turns out that this can be important for matters like privacy and safety.

Third parties benefit from Public APIs by having a guaranteed set of features to work with, proper documentation of API behaviour, and confidence that the API will behave in a way that they can reason about, and an API lifecycle management process with which will enable them to make their own guarantees regarding their work.

What is the Zuckerman lawsuit?

First, let me start with a few references:

The shortest summary of the lawsuit that I have heard from one of its ardent supporters, is that the lawsuit:

[…] seeks immunity from [the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act] and [the Digital Millennium Copyright Act] [for legal] claims [against third parties or users] for automating a browser [to use Private APIs to obtain extra “value” from a website] and [the lawsuit also] does not seek state mandated APIs, or, indeed, any APIs

(private communication)


To make a strawman analogy so that we can defend it’s accuracy:

Let’s build and distribute motors to flick lightswitches on and off to make strobe lights, because what’s the worst that could happen? And we want people to have a fundamental right to do this, because Section 230 says we have such a right. We won’t be requiring any new switches to be installed, we just want to be allowed to use the ones that are already there, so it’s easy and low-cost to ask for, and there’s no risk to us doing this. But we also want legal immunity just in case what we provide happens to burn someone’s house down.

In other words: a return to the ways of the early 2000s, where scraping data and poking undocumented Private APIs was an accepted way to hack extra value into a website platform. To a particular mindset — especially the “big tech is irredeemably evil” folk — this sounds great, because clearly Meta intentionally prevents your having full, automated remote control over your user data on the grounds that it’s terribly valuable to them, and their having it keeps you addicted, so it helps them make money

And you know what? To a very limited extent I agree with that premise — or at least that some of the Facebook user-interface is unnecessarily painful to use.

E.g. I feel there is little (some, but little) practical excuse for the heavy user friction which Facebook imposes upon editing of the “topics you may be interested in receiving adverts about“; but the way to address this is not to encourage proliferation of browser plugins (of dubious provenance regarding privacy and regulatory compliance, let alone uncertain behaviour) which manipulate undocumented Private APIs.

Apart from any other reason, as alluded above, Private APIs are built in the expectation of being used in a particular way — e.g. by humans, at a particular cadence and frequency — and on advanced platforms like Facebook they are engineered with those expectations enforced by rate limits not only for efficiency but also for availability, security and privacy reasons.

This is something which I partially described in a presentation on behalf of Facebook at PasswordCon in 2014, but the short version is: if an API is expected to be used primarily by a human being, then for security and trust purposes it makes sense to limit it to human rates of activity.

If you start driving these Private APIs at rates which are inhuman — 10s or 100s of actions per second — then you should and will expect them to either be rate-limited, or else possibly break the platform in much the same way that flicking a lightswitch at such a rate would break that lightswitch or bulb.

With this we can describe the error in one of the proponent’s claims: We aren’t requiring any new [APIs] to be installed, we just want to be allowed to use the ones that are already there — but if the Private API is neither intended nor capable of being driven at automated speeds then either something (the platform?) will break, or else there will be loud demands that the Private APIs be re-engineered to remove “bottlenecks” (rate limits) to the detriment of availability and security.

But if you will be calling for the formalisation of Private APIs to provide functionality, why are you not instead calling for an obligation upon the platform to provide a Public API?

Private APIs are not Public APIs, and Public APIs may demand registration

The general theme of the lawsuit is to demand that any API which a platform implements — even undocumented Private ones — should be legally treated as a Public API, open for use by third party implementors, without reciprocal obligation that the third-party client obtain an “API Key” to identify itself, nor to abide by particular behaviour or rate-limits.

In short: all APIs, both Public and Private, should become “fair game” to third party implementors, and the Platforms should have no business to distinguish between one third-party or another, even in the instance that one or more of them are malicious.

This is a dangerous proposal. Platforms innovate new functionality and change their Private API behaviour at a relatively rapid speed, and there is currently nothing to prevent that; but if a true “right to use” for a Private API becomes somehow enshrined, what happens next?

Obviously: any behaviour which interferes with a public right-to-use is illegal, so it will therefore become illegal to change or remove Private APIs — or at very least any attempt to do so will lead to claims of “anticompetitive behaviour” and yet more punitive lawsuits. The free-speech rights of the platform will be abridged by compulsion to never change APIs, or to support legacy-publicly-used-yet-undocumented APIs forever more.

So, again, why not cut this Gordian knot by compelling platforms to make available a Public API that supports the desired functionality? After all, even Mastodon obligates developers of third-party apps to register their apps before use; but somehow big platforms should accept and and all non-human usage of Private APIs without discrimination?

Summary

I don’t want to keep flogging this horse, so I am just going to try and summarise in a few bullets:

  1. Private APIs exist to provide functionality to directly support a platform; they are implemented in ways which reflect their expected (usually: human) modes of use, they are not publicly documented, they can come and go, and this is normal and okay
  2. Public APIs exist to provide functionality to support third-party value-add to a platform; they are documented and offer some form of public “contract” or guarantee of behaviour, capability, and reliability. They are often designed in expectation of automated or bulk usage.
  3. Private APIs do not offer such a public contract; they are not meant to be built upon other than by the platform itself. They are meant to be able to “go away” without fuss, but if their use is a guaranteed “right” then how can they ever be deprecated?
  4. If third parties want to start using Private APIs as if they were Public APIs then the Private APIs will probably need to be re-engineered to support the weight of automated or bulk usage; but if they are going to be re-engineered anyway, why not push for them to become Public APIs?
  5. If Private APIs are not re-engineered and their excessive automated use by third party tools breaks the platform, why should the tool-user or the tool-provider not be held at least partly responsible as would happen in any other form of intentional or unintentional Denial-of-Service attack?
  6. If some (in-browser) third party tools claim to be acting “for the public good” then presumably they will have no problem in identifying themselves in order to differentiate themselves from (in-browser) evil cookie-stealing malware and worms; but to differentiate themselves would require use of an API Key and a Public API — so why are the third-party tool authors not calling to have the necessary Public APIs?

Just because an academic says “I wrote a script and I think it will work and that I [or one of your users] should be allowed to run it against your service without fear of reprisal even though [we] don’t understand how the back end system will scale with it”— does not mean that they should be permitted to do so willy-nilly, not against Facebook nor against your local community Mastodon instance.

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br00t4c, to meta
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Professor sues Meta to allow release of feed-killing tool for Facebook

https://arstechnica.com/?p=2022922

Smootasaurus, to fediverse
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They're not sharing to the so I'm bringing it here...

freezenet, to news
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As TikTok Moral Panic Spreads, EU to Probe Meta for Failure to Curb Foreign Interference

The EU apparently believes that Meta has insufficient moderation to curb ads that undermine the electoral process. Nice timing.

https://www.freezenet.ca/as-tiktok-moral-panic-spreads-eu-to-probe-meta-for-failure-to-curb-foreign-interference/

1br0wn, to meta
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#Meta’s ad tools are formidable, for everyone from your neighbourhood takeaway to multinational giants, and it’s a mammoth effort to stop the gap from widening further. It’s too soon to say whether #Snap’s efforts to close it will be successful – but it’s the things hidden from the normal users, as much as anything they can see on their phones, that will decide the next decade for the company.’ #Facebook #Snapchat https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/07/techscape-newsletter-snapchat

adachika192, to meta
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https://www.metamates4ceasefire.com/

Dear Mark Zuckerberg and Leadership,
… …
We, employees, wish to express our disappointment and astonishment at the lack of acknowledgement and care the leaders of this company have shown toward the Palestinian community and its allies…
———

> https://mstdn.ca/@dbattistella/112401457647324756

@palestine

Sarosa, to fediverse
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Not even trying to be funny, why do forks feel like they're trying to whitewash Misskey?

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aral, to mastodon
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Ooh, can’t wait to read the gushing praise from Mastodon GmbH for this on the Mastodon blog.

(Mastodon gGmbH and Meta are besties, you see. https://www.platformer.news/mastodon-interview-eugen-rochko-meta-bluesky-threads-federation/)

Is it up yet?

#mastodon #meta #besties #allTheBetterToSeeYouWith #EmbraceExtendExtinguish https://social.wildeboer.net/@jwildeboer/112391192672337102

br00t4c, to meta
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Meta's Oversight Board in a Historic Election Year: Nine Key Lessons for Industry

https://www.justsecurity.org/95396/metas-oversight-board-election-lessons/

darnell, to threads
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Yay! My #Flipboard account is federating: @darnell

Like #Threads & #Ghost, Flipboard is beta testing #ActivityPub on its main site.

I believe Flipboard will prove to be a counterweight to Threads and a prime location for news & pundits (as #Meta does not really desire the latter two on their platforms).

caiocgo, to meta Portuguese
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Uma vergonha, isso!

"Golpe do Instagram é feito sob medida para você cair"

#meta
#golpe
#instagram
#podcast
#UOL
#SocialMedia

https://youtu.be/EiJlP7hbwYE?si=Un2aiUhk75CgRtZf

kubikpixel, to Facebook German
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Hat dies Meta nicht im Griff oder möchten sie sich nicht einmischen, weil es ihren Interessen gleicht?!

»Social Media – Auf Facebook organisieren sich hunderte rechtsextreme US-Milizen:
Eine neue Untersuchung spricht von starker Zunahme der Aktivitäten im letzten Jahr. Entsprechende Gruppen sind auf Facebook verboten, Meta hat das Problem offenbar nicht im Griff«

😒 https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000218861/auf-facebook-organisieren-sich-in-aller-ruhe-hunderte-rechtsextreme-us-milizen


br00t4c, (edited ) to random
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goodthinkhunting, to meta German
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Meta feuert Experten, der gegen Sextortion gegen Minderjährige kämpfen sollte, noch bevor er anfangen kann.

Wann schalten wir Plattformen ab, die mutwillig das Leben von Menschen zerstören?

@fedieltern

Screenshot LinkedIn Post Paul Raffile

crossgolf_rebel, to fediverse

Tja liebe Leute. Schaut euch das #Fediverse von heute noch mal an.
So wird es #Meta nicht lassen, denn sie wollen Geld verdienen.
Allein schon beim quer Lesen des Beitrags, werden eine Fülle von Befürchtungen der #Fedipact Konten indirekt bestätigt

Es geht denen nur um Geld und zwar um eures 💰

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/25/why-meta-is-looking-to-the-fediverse-as-the-future-for-social-media/?guccounter=1

darnell, to meta
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I know is popular amongst Americans 🇺🇸 who travel outside of the country, but I doubt will replace in the 🇺🇸 in the near future.

has already lost to Messenger in 🇺🇸, so in a sense @zuck has already won.

👉🏾 WhatsApp Reveals Biggest iPhone Update For 2024—It's Impossible To Beat https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/05/04/whatsapps-surprise-new-update-iphone-15-pro-max-iphone-16-pro-max/

tokyo_0, to meta
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A lot of people have insisted isn't getting involved with the to embrace, extend and extinguish it...

... but even before fully implementing Fediverse interoperability in they're already talking openly about changing its protocols to add features like monetization. 🤔

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/25/why-meta-is-looking-to-the-fediverse-as-the-future-for-social-media/

Text in a screenshot reads as follows: McCue riffed on the idea that fediverse users could become creators where some of their content became available to subscribers only, similar to how Patreon works. For instance, fediverse advocate and co-editor of ActivityPub Evan Prodromou created a paid Mastodon account (@evanplus) that users could subscribe to for $5 per month to gain access. If he’s on board with paid content, surely others would follow. Cottle agreed that the model could work with the fediverse, too. He additionally suggested there are ways the fediverse could monetize beyond donations, which is what often powers various efforts today, like Mastodon. Cottle said someone might even make a fediverse experience that consumers would pay for, the way some fediverse client apps are paid today.

linuxtldr, to linux
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How to Run and Use Meta’s Llama 3 on Linux
#Linux #Meta #Llama #ChatGPT #OpenAI #LMStudio
https://linuxtldr.com/llama-3-linux/

br00t4c, to meta
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Elon Musk all the time, Google layoffs, and Saudi Arabia's troubled megacity: The week's most popular stories

https://qz.com/elon-musk-tesla-supercharger-layoffs-google-netflix-ai-1851454920

br00t4c, to Amazon
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My Favorite Amazon Deal of the Day: These Meta Quest 2 Bundles

https://lifehacker.com/tech/amazon-deal-of-the-day-meta-quest-2-bundle

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