Calling attention to this type of shit as a reason to suggest Biden shouldn’t be elected is about as bad faith as it can get. OP has been asked- of the third party candidates, who could beat Trump? They predictably had no response. But if this makes Biden unelectable, they’d better hope that their throwaway choice has never made a mistake in their lives- otherwise, admit this is just another attempt to skew the outcome in their favor. And if they have such a hate boner for Biden, what do you think it could be.
Lastly, It’s always good to see this stuff called out for what it is. I have hope that maybe lemmy won’t turn into a right-wing or far-left propaganda platform after all. Democrats aren’t putting up their best option- and haven’t in a long time, but pushing a non-vote or throwaway vote agenda at this time in our lives with everthing at stake is quite possibly the dumbest thing one could possibly do.
ROFL… okay man. This is hopeless. Keep posting your propaganda. We’ll keep calling it out. Come November, if Trump wins- you’re going to vanish from here and resurface as an anonymous victim of your own actions. And we won’t have to deal with you…
If Biden wins, we’ll be too busy celebrating not becoming a dictatorship to listen to anything you’re going to whine about- and we won’t have to deal with you.
Until then, keep posting your hit-pieces. I’m loving watching it get methodically picked apart.
If Trump wins, it could end up partially being your fault. From the third party votes to the pouting at home non votes. Yes. Depending on the margin of loss- you might be entirely responsible for the outcome.
If Biden wins. No- we didn’t need you. Because that’s how it works. Do you not understand that no one can know right now what the outcome is going to be? OF COURSE your votes are needed now- but if he wis without them, then…. Yes- we didn’t need you.
And this whole “blue Maga” insult of yours just makes you look like a foolish and clueless teenager to everyone.
So you’re basically admitting to throwing away your vote. You were asked, by me- who can beat Trump if not Biden?
You had NO answer.
So you’re going to vote for someone that cannot win- ON PURPOSE.
Understand that if you throw away your vote- someone is still getting elected. Your little ignorant grass roots ideological movement is irrelevant to them. You’re already canceled out and not counted. They KNOW they can count on SJWs to not vote. It happens every election year. So your decision to pout and throw a tantrum over a single issue is entirely relevant.
But a vote can cancel out the opposition and allow those that actually want to keep democracy going a chance to continue.
But you people want to come in a fuck everything for everyone every four years anyway, despite what I said being true. And just like every election- you’ll vanish when the time comes to take responsibility for what you’ve done.
Every single one of you will disappear from lemmy and resurface as innocent victims when the time comes.
yawn same screamers every election. It’s up to the party to put up somebody that can fight and win. Biden ain’t it for me. That’s democracy. I can vote for whoever I want or not vote.
You absolutely can. And for now, I’m allowed to call you out for being ignorant. But your ignorance just might cause America to become a dictatorship. And when that happens-
What a tired and ignorant trope to keep peddling. Dude. I wasn’t as bad as you when I was young, but I was down with a lot of it. Then I grew up and learned nuance. You really need to trust people when they tell you that you have it all wrong.
Be humble. You don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s not as easy as you want it to be, and you need to understand the nuance of how things work. You’re not being downvoted into oblivion for no reason.
and not the candidate that’s supposed to earn the votes.
It astounds me that the same people who claim to be leftists have such an aristocratic view of how elections work. No one has agency, except for the candidates.
You want to shoot yourself in the dick, that’s cool, IDGAF. You expect people to care about an inconsequential error made in speaking, as if we’re all light thinkers, and join you in dick-shooting? Nah, feck off.
Voting 3rd party throws away your vote. Every state is going to either Biden or Trump. Period. There is no viable 3rd party.
So you can put your vote to Biden, or you can help out the guy facing 88 felony charges, wants a war with Mexico, and through Project 2025 would establish an authoritarian state unheard of in American history.
That’s what I’ve been trying to explain to people from the start… Biden needs Jewish support. If he comes out against Israel, he loses that, and the kids supporting Palestine will go “Yeah, but you didn’t do it soon enough.” Lose/Lose.
Well, he needs the support of both and anyone with a half-functioning brain to know the difference between a dictatorship and a democracy.
The problem with these people is that they don’t understand the nuance of how things work. They’re reactionary idealists, and they’re dangerous, but not at all in the way they think…
They’re dangerous to the survival of democracy.
Any support of genocide is abhorrent, but it isn’t reason to sacrifice your own country in order to make a stand. Especially when there’s a worse version salivating over the chance to do worse.
Yep. But these things don’t fuel their outrage. So they deny the reality of it and continue on with their smear campaigns all while feeling like they did good.
They have no fucking clue how bad things will be when Trump gets his second and last shot at destroying America.
You just love your assumptions, don’t you? It must be nice to live in a world where you get to make up how things work and who people are- and then react to it all in your own little fantasy.
I know little about you aside from the nonsense you post here, but if I had to guess, and I will allow for a margin of error… you’re probably not out of your teens yet. And that is why I think you deserve a bit of leeway regarding how I respond to you.
I’ve tried explaining things to you in a way that is as respectful as I’m able to be- given the situation. But your responses are about as juvenile and ignorant as would be expected from someone who hasn’t lived long enough to understand simple things like nuance, and common sense.
Wasn’t sure that being gay had age requirements. As far as I know, you could be both. And your city of residence is entirely irrelevant to the discussion.
Your age, sometimes can be though.
Because with age comes the wisdom it takes to understand how nuanced things are. You’re living in a black and white world. But the rest of us know that life exists within the gray area. Everthing is in the gray area.
You can’t get shit done without compromise. Politically anyway. It’s an absolute necessity. There no argument to it, and no way around it.
This is how it is and without proper change, this is how it will always be. And folding your arms and throwing away your vote does mot net proper change. I mean… do you seriously think you’re doing something new? You say you want change. Dude… what you’re doing happens EVERY election year. EVERY ONE.
How much change has it created?
You say the old guard ways of doing things are wrong, but- and I hate to tell ya this… you’re part of that. It’s a cycle. Every four years. Two assholes step in the ring, a bunch of assholes take sides to cheer the gloved assholes, and another bunch of assholes protest the fight outside the arena.
This is not new and you are not original.
If you REALLY want change, you’ll try your fucking hardest to keep this ship pointed in a better direction than the sea floor- and do the work over the next four years to guarantee better selections of candidates. THIS is the proper change I was talking about.
Because screaming from the roooftops about how shit isn’t fair- doesn’t make shit fair.
Listen though… if Trump wins, you’d better hope it’s by a wide enough margin so as to have made you vote as irrelevant as you intend it to be. Because it’ll be ENTIRELY your fault. And you will take responsibility for the removal of women’s rights, the fall of the LGBTQ+, the anihilaruon ot what remains of Palestine, pretty much most of American democracy after Trump rewrites the constitution, and…. Well- pretty much everything he does.
All because you are too stubborn to listen to people that know better than you.
Go on back to sharing your propaganda. And know that myself, and people like me will always be here to point out that we know what it is you’re doing.
Yeah it’d be crazy if peaceful protests were violently attacked by right wing terrorists and the cops just joined in on the beatings
If the Supreme Court started ignoring precedent, which they stated under oath they would not do, and started saying cases have standing even if the damaged entity literally is a hypothetical that has never happened
If the largest union action in this generation was stomped down and made to heel
If a violent mob literally stormed the capital while Congress was in session certifying an election and were not all prosecuted as domestic terrorists and hanged, under the most advanced security state in the world that knows exactly who was there using cellular pings
Let me guess, you’re going to say the same thing in 2028 except all these things will have gotten worse and if we just hold our noses and tolerate it one more time the Blues will fix it all, just like they did in 2020 and 2012 and 2008 and 1992 and……….
Who else is being offered that can beat Trump. Answer the question without any double-talk, whataboutism, back-tracking, diversions, or questions of your own.
Simply:
Who else being offered can beat Trump.
Because it seems you just like to post the problems and not any solutions. And that’s about as suspiciously bad-faith as it can get.
They’ll swap out Biden at the DNC convention in June August. At this point, I don’t think Biden can beat Trump. He’s polling as the worst POTUS in 70 years (favorability). We’re just fucked.
So… you have no answer to the question and did exactly what I knew you would. Do you really expect to be taken seriously when you can’t overcome a single question that opposes your view?
Rethink things man. You’re wrong. MOST of the time.
Oh, also…. Polls are bullshit. And you’ve already been fact checked on the polls thing you posted a while ago. So stop spreading that incorrect bullshit.
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