MonsiuerPatEBrown,

It is weird how many times I have to tell myself out loud “reddit is bad for me; close that tab!”

I am grateful that facebook/instagram requires a login. It means I never have to look at it even when I am feeling weak.

Same with The Atlantic, The NY Times, and the Jeff Bezos Suck Billionaire Cock Machine The Washington Post.

Thank you for keeping me from reading that trash, rich people.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I love those in-your-face Facebook login pages and Instagram “install our app” unblockable prompts. After leaving it many years ago, once I thought maybe I should hop onto it and have it by the side for filling that “social” void in life. Then I saw the devil gatekeeper known as Facebook Inc. and social media culture being toxic, anti-social and disconnected from reality. Turned around and walked happily.

Anticorp,

How dare you not let us track your location!

istanbullu,

How can they distinguish VPN users? I’m guessing it’s a IP blocklist.

FriendBesto,

Exactly that, I wohld assume. I could still get on with a VPN IP from some 3rd world countries over Western countries but even those are now failing.

Ransack,

Lol it’s simple just watch for a shit ton of traffic from single ip addresses.

qjkxbmwvz,

They appear to also have blocklists independent of “shit ton of traffic.” I have a VPN to my VPS (Oracle), which has a public IP (and I’m the only user). I also get whoa pardner’d when going through that VPN.

Perhaps I fall into the “we don’t want other people scraping our site unless they pay” category though. I would make sense to just block off all VPS/cloud IP blocks (e.g., AWS, Azure, Oracle, Google Cloud…).

henfredemars,

One more step away from log in to view this post. Back away from the trash fire. I see that I’m unable to login through two different VPNs.

kandoh,

Huh, interesting. I was wondering why twitter wasn’t loading in my browser and it’s because I was behind the duckduckgo VPN. I guess this is a thing websites will be doing now.

delirious_owl,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Only eveil websites.

Jaysyn,
Jaysyn avatar

I only go there on accident.

Salix,

Started? Been having that issue for months now. It only works on VPN if you’re logged on.

Certain VPN servers can go through it they haven’t implemented a block for it yet. AirVPN launched some new servers that worked for a bit, but Reddit blocked them a few weeks later.

Marin_Rider,

I think its a move to keep banned people out, as old reddit was the loophole people used to make new accounts. can’t create an account via VPN on old reddit if you can’t access without being logged in

Synnr,

They started also blocking OLD.reddit.com this week. I made a comment a couple months ago alluding to old.reddit.com still working even though they were blocking tor and known VPNs on www.reddit.com. I’m sure about 10,000 other people figured it out at the same time as me, since it was such a simple bypass, and I’m surprised it took this long to fix.

There are still at least 2 other unpatched ways.

Salix, (edited )

old.reddit.com is the only Reddit website I use. I have every reddit link automatically redirect to that website as well. I haven’t been able to access old.reddit.com for months on most servers of 3 different VPNs I’ve used.

UckyBon,

I have the same experience, but mostly from VPN servers located in Singapore. They’re all blocked, or protected by some Cloudflare CAPTCHAS that seem to be much harder to pass than those of the early 2010s.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Can someone tell me how they would know if someone uses a VPN to access their site? I believe OpenVPN has a way to make traffic look like normal HTTPS traffic

Synnr,

It’s not about anti-censorship (making your VPN traffic look like regular traffic) it’s about the IP address at the end of the VPN connection. They have a list of known VPN provider IP ranges and block those. If you run a proxy server or VPN on a your own private VPS for example, then it won’t be detected.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Ah, that’s great to know. Thanks

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

It’s definitely been a thing for more than just a week. I saw a post complaining about this on old Reddit months ago.

AllNewTypeFace,
@AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space avatar

Fuck Reddit.

UckyBon,

And Reddit wants you to do that without protection.

Mikina,

Same issue. I guess I’m never going back there. I’ve already stopped doing it, but from time to time a question I was researching let me to Reddit.

What’s the best tool to delete your account, while also overriding all of your posts and comments?

Turd_Ferg,
@Turd_Ferg@sh.itjust.works avatar

I havent tried it, but I was told about Redact. It replaces all of your post with gibberish.

possiblylinux127,

Please do not do this. Not creating new content is the best option.

Mikina,

Why, though? I have helpful answers in many threads, giving support about arcane issues people have been dealing with. I don’t want this content to be monetized further.

delirious_owl,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Nah, just migrate it to some other site

possiblylinux127,

Or you could leave it to rot. You are deleting history

different_base, (edited )

Can confirm. At this point, I just want a solution to completely remove Reddit links from search results.

Atelopus-zeteki,
@Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run avatar

I looked up to see is my VPN is connected. It is. Good. Moving right along.

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s easy to disable a VPN remotely though, especially on handheld devices.

All you need to is to point the user to a post or a website that is bloated with JS and contains high rez images and/or video.

The device then has to either begin paging memory like crazy - or more likely - begins to kill background processes that it thinks are not used by the foreground apps (e.g. your VPN).

For newer smartphones this is less of an issue, since their RAM can handle it. For > 5 year old smartphones though? They might struggle.

henfredemars,

Not sure why you’re getting downvotes. I’ve seen VPN apps get background killed on some devices.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

And for that, Android has a VPN killswitch function since Nougat, which has never failed. You can turn it on for whatever VPN/firewall you use.

henfredemars,

Hmm, I’ve had that fail on some cheap Chinese phones. They have other software that kills things in the background irrespective of the setting. I developed a VPN client and was never truly able to solve this problem on some low memory devices.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

The VPN may get killed, but the killswitch in network stack prevents any connection outside, unless you have some really weird noname phone with poorly developed custom Android build. If you have any brand phone you hear, Google, Huawei, Samsung, Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, Oneplus, Asus or any such big name, I do not think this issue will occur, atleast I have not heard or seen this on any decent budget specced device. Besides, I think having a device with less than 3-4 GB RAM is going to cause issues, because they are computers just in handheld form.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Android has a VPN killswitch function since version 7 Nougat, which never fails. If your firewall/VPN gets killed in memory, your internet connection ceases to work until it is turned on and connected again.

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

In theory, yes. In practice, I can definitely tell you that the kill-switch service gets killed too, despite whatever level of niceness it’s assigned.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I can definitely tell you that the kill-switch service gets killed too

Can you provide proof of your dangerous claims? Killswitch is in Android/AOSP as part of system networking stack.

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m not going to dox myself but I can tell you that it’s a near daily occurrence for me on Lineage 18 (Android 11) on my phone with 2GB RAM.

Here is a related issue from 10 months ago, for an android TV device:

reddit.com/…/vpn_app_disconnecting_in_background/

TheAnonymouseJoker, (edited )
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

Nowhere does that person say they used this option. These options appear when you hold tap VPN/firewall app you set in VPN settings.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/f5547778-29a5-4b99-be14-feed21b3b7c2.jpeg

Also, did they whitelist it from whatever battery saver phone has? Or disabled PowerGenie stuff? And used that little “keep app in memory” thing like this?

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/8009d44e-d7ad-420c-b686-5f72e96a6c1d.jpeg

I force killed my both firewalls and this happened. The same stays when phone restarts until both firewalls are up and running.

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/1c38c26c-28db-42c3-924d-bbd11c8678b8.jpeg

Now, tell me about that claim you made…

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

I’m happy it works flawless for you man, and I’m sure on official Lineage builds which are as close as possible to AOSP things work exactly as you say.

I have an unofficial Lineage 18 ROM patched to hell to work with my old phone. All I can do is tell you what I see, and what I see is that when my phone tries to play a 720p or higher video, with an impossibly high bit-rate for the phone, the phone starts to aggressively background-kill apps, and that includes my VPN.

Again, happy it works for you, and I agree that in principle the default route should point to nothing if the VPN dies. On my device, when the virtual network device of the VPN goes down, it drops to the default network and finds another gateway.

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I think then that is on whoever built/maintains that weird build of Lineage for your phone, and is definitely an anomaly. Maybe seek another good Android build, or if financially good, a new phone?

tetris11,
@tetris11@lemmy.ml avatar

Sure, fair. Though I have enough phones I’ve collected over the years, I’m not sure if I need any more. As long as I take care not to go media heavy sites, my current device meets my needs almost all of the time.

delirious_owl,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

You run your VPN on your router to fix this. Then every device on your network are forced through the tunnel, and this risk does not exist.

delirious_owl,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

If you run a VPN app, you can use AFWall to force all traffic through the VPN. So if the VPN app isn’t running for some reason, the apps set to only go through the VPN service will have no internet access.

drkt,
@drkt@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Who told you this?

DavidGarcia,

what an absolute garbage site it has turned into

Kid_Thunder,

It is likely someone using the same VPN service using the same server or server on the same subnet was scraping data or similar and got blocked. Therefore you are too.

RandoCalrandian,
RandoCalrandian avatar

Yeah I get that occasionally, swapping to another endpoint fixes it right up

delirious_owl,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

I like how Activity Pub encourages sharing of content while annoying companies like reddit for stupid reasons see this activity as bad.

If they dont want me to scrape, then why dont they just expose a rate limited public & free API…

Kid_Thunder,

Because money.

Zachariah,
@Zachariah@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not your pardner, buddy.

TubeTalkerX,

I’m not your buddy, pal!

Kyle_The_G,

I’m not you pal, guy!

Frog-Brawler,
Frog-Brawler avatar

Haven’t been on Reddit since Apollo went away. This is the way.

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