starwall,
@starwall@wizzzard.online avatar

honestly ban SUVs and the fuck off big trucks. unless you're a god damned business you don't need something like that, get a van if you need the space or a normal fuckin flatbed truck if they even still make those

starwall,
@starwall@wizzzard.online avatar

to everybody who was weaseled out of their money by some sales guy and continues to pay at the pump for these scams, I do not feel sorry for you. however, I do feel sorry for the rest of us. I can't believe people have fallen so hard for this auto industry scam.

starwall,
@starwall@wizzzard.online avatar

people just love to get scammed out of their money by sales guys and the auto industry in general, always have and always will. this all happened because the auto industry wanted to sidestep emission standards in the first place, and truly their number one market for this is dumb-as-rocks often rich white suburbanites. everybody is making choices which enrich themselves and make sense for themselves, except for the people buying SUVs. those people are literally just being scammed.

starwall,
@starwall@wizzzard.online avatar

in the future the roads are 50 feet wide and jaywalking is punishable by death.
an aide pulls me aside
wait, since 1930?

starwall,
@starwall@wizzzard.online avatar

Look, the amount of road wear increases exponentially to weight. Road damage is proportional to weight per axle to the 4th power. bigger cars means more road work, more repaving, more taxes to pay for all of that overbuilt nonsense. All while just the same number of people are being transported.

SUVs and "light trucks" should be taxed on a curve which represents the roads which they rely on to exist as a transit method, and the dumbasses actually buying the SUVs should pay that tax instead of literally all of the rest of us including those who don't even own cars.

DJDarren,
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@starwall The best part here is that the heavier weight causes more damage, so people buy bigger, more “capable” SUVs to be able to drive on the more damaged roads. Which then cause more damage…

starwall,
@starwall@wizzzard.online avatar

@DJDarren extrapolating the trend we're only a few decades away from civilianized APCs rolling over an endless expanse of gravel to make the grocery trips happen

quixoticgeek,
@quixoticgeek@v.st avatar

@starwall this is something I've used to great effect when people say bikes should pay road tax.

"How much should they pay?" Say
"Hundred quid!" They say.
"Fine. Based on that, it would mean a 2 ton car would pay something in the region of a million?" I reply....

They drop the idea fast...

MartinVeart,
@MartinVeart@mastodon.scot avatar

@starwall when I lived in Norway 25 years ago, personal vehicles were taxed thus: tax on kerb weight, tax on engine capacity and tax on power output. Then VAT on top. A Toyota Yaris would attract minimal tax. A Jeep Grand Cherokee was $100,000. EVs were then rare and attracted no vehicle tax. Now Norway is the largest per capita users of EVs. I digress: from the Norwegian example, kerb weight is potentially a taxable aspect of car ownership.

isisevrinen,

@starwall In the Netherlands, you pay road tax if you own a car. How much you pay depends on the weight of your car. So for an SUV you pay way more tax than for a cute little Peugeot 205. Oldtimers (40+ years) are tax free.

Still, the number of SUV's and other big cars is ever increasing. Clearly, only tax doesn't work. Just ban them. It's not like one actually needs such a car.

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