feld,
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    nik,

    @feld @Moon @tedu what about pleroma makes it suck at handling deletes?

    eris,
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    @nik @Moon @feld @tedu I think it's the job handler. Mastodon has sidekiq and it's set up to basically queue up the jobs in different priorities and handle them as the server has capacity. I think pleroma just has something more basic iirc

    mischievoustomato,
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    how do you disable that?

    Vril_Oreilly,
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    @mischievoustomato @feld @tedu @Moon I think it's an MRF policy you can activate in adminfe

    Moon,
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    @Vril_Oreilly @feld @mischievoustomato

    There is I think a custom MRF going around that rejects them but I am using a built-in MRF called Vocabulary that can be configured to reject Delete activities.

    mischievoustomato,
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    how can i set it up?

    Moon,
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    @mischievoustomato @feld @Vril_Oreilly I don't know how to do it from AdminFE because I use the config file method.

    mischievoustomato,
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    perhaps the text snippet helps?

    i,
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    mischievoustomato,
    @mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

    wow, complex, but doable :niggacheese:

    feld,
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  • Moon,
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    @feld @Vril_Oreilly @i @mischievoustomato

    also like, when I was working on my (defunct) activitypub-enabled blog, I shared a post with two servers and within minutes I was getting spammed with deletes from random mastodon instances. I don't think the actual spam problem is solvable though . I kind of feel like if activitypub (in its current state) was the protocol that everyone used, that this problem would be a complete obstacle to scaling.

    i,
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    @Moon @feld @Vril_Oreilly @mischievoustomato at least pleroma is nice enough to track deliveries, mastodon peppers every single peer it has ever seen

    there's no reason activities couldn't provide a collection of objects instead of a thousand individual requests

    phnt,
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    @feld @Vril_Oreilly @i @mischievoustomato @Moon If you make the number of concurrent delete operations configurable, I don't see any problems. Remote deletes aren't fast anyway and it's unreasonable to assume that account deletions will be fast. Maybe you could pretend the account was deleted and process the post deletes from mastodon silently in the background.

    phnt,
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    @feld @Moon @Vril_Oreilly @i @mischievoustomato To clarify what I mean by pretending. If someone asks BE for an object that is marked to be deleted, the BE replies that the object is gone/non-existent. Theoretically this way it won't show up in threads on the frontend and everything would look normal from the outside.

    FUCKINGWHOCARESDUDE,
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    @mischievoustomato @feld @tedu @Moon

    This is what I do. Not sure if it actually accomplishes what it needs to in terms of removing the spam, though

    mint,
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    @FUCKINGWHOCARESDUDE @feld @tedu @mischievoustomato @Moon I think this (and the vocabulary-based reject) breaks deleting local activities as well, hence why everyone's using custom MRFs that reject Delete activities only if its origin instance's domain isn't the same as an actual instance it's running on.

    Moon,
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    @mint @FUCKINGWHOCARESDUDE @feld @tedu @mischievoustomato oh, I did not think about that. I'll have to adjust it then.

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