@davidrevoy I could read all of them without zooming, but I'm on a Galaxy S22 Ultra...
I like the Patrick font the best, it's the only one of the three that looks to me like "comics lettering" and not "computer font doing comics lettering" (in particular it reminded me of the lettering from Garfield strips). I think what makes the other two look more computery is the kerning in the second one and the excessive letter-spacing in the third one.
@davidrevoy
Je peux tous les lire facilement, mais je trouve Kalam légèrement moins lisible. Ça va pour des textes de cette taille, mais ça pourrait se compliquer si tu écrivais des pavés !
@loaExMachina Merci pour le retour ! Ha oui les pavés, c'est problématique. Hier, j'ai déterminé dans des tests que les bulles de 130 caractères prenaient 1/2 de la case. Va falloir que je reste concis en écriture de dialogues.
@lord_tacitus Thank you for the feedback! Yes, Fedilab and Tusky reported to be of very good quality on my replies about displaying the attached square picture large enough in the TL and without cropping them or showing it as a 16:9 thumbnail. It's cool for posting webcomics!
@norihiori Thank you for the feedback! Also, it's rare Kalam got supporters in the replies of this test, it feels problematic at multiple levels (even one technical with the slight italic built-in of the font making antialiasing issues when reduced at low size with heavy JPG compression.). PatrickHand got a larger consensus.
@allpurposemat Thank you for the feedback and the screenshot; it's especially precious for me to see the rounded corners and the overlay of icons (the eyes/Alt position), this way I'll build safe guidelines on where to statistically not put important elements or future texts.👍
@davidrevoy
Strange: I can read the font in the comic (Kalam) quite well and I like it, but in comparison with the other fonts Patrick hand is readable best. Perhaps I'm too used to "regular sans" fonts.
@AxelStieglbauer Thank you for the feedback! yes, I think I'll have to pick the best attribute here and there, probably building on the top of Patrick Hand(1), I start to have feedback this one is the easier to read (many scaling, screen size, jpg compression of various Fediverse clients, this is a cool indicator that author of PatrickHand made something effective.
@davidrevoy on a pixel 6a I can read the image text without problems,
In the text below I like the 18pt more, but my eyesight gets worse after looking at a screen with code all day.
@Garonenur Thank you for sharing your feedback. The 18px one is indeed PatrickHand, and it received the largest amount of positive feedback. I'll move on this one, and tweak it a bit. I can't wait to share a next test 😊
@davidrevoy
In Fedilab on my smartphone (screen 6x11cm), the text is just a little smaller than the default text, but still quite readable (all fonts).
Tapping the image, the font is then about the same as the font size in the app.
FWIW, I like "Kalam" (seems to be what's in the speech bubbles at the top?). It's a friendly, comicbook font look. Pangolin is slightly more readable, but I find it slightly off-putting (more obviously typeset).
For me, this "15pt" text is about the same size as the browser font in Firefox, or just slightly larger, when I am look at this post in the Mastodon web app.
When I click on the image to show it at full size, the text is quite large and very readable.
Of course, my desktop screen is pretty large, but also 4K. In the post, the image is about 20x20 cm, when I click on it, it expands to about 35x35 cm.
@TerryHancock Thanks for the feedback and the size in cm, very cool to get a general idea of how different and not standardized all viewing condition are. 👍
@Pandora Thank you for your feedback. I had the same feeling, but it's not really shared in my feedback. For PatrickHand (1) the FONTS has the F that touches the O almost while on Pangolin I find the letter spacing and integrity better respected.
@Pandora :neko_nyaan: Oh no, and well spotted and my mistake for quickly writing the sentence on the top of my head. I have to remember this brown fox is quick :)
@SQLAllFather 👍 Thank you for the feedback! It looks like Patrick Hand (1) is really doing the consensus among all the feedback I received so far. I find it lack a little bit of charm and originality. But maybe that's something I can spice on the top if I fork it.🙂
@efi Thank you Efi. I started with a list of 8 ! Yes, these three one with the correct line-height are really not that bad.
With the amount of feedback I already have, I see Patrick Hand is championing the readibility, and Kalam has charm. Pangolin is rarely mentioned. So, I'll probably work on getting the best of (1) and (3). :blobcat:
@davidrevoy Readable on Firefox and Kaiteki (clearer on screen than the screenshot suggests). All three options are legible, license is the only part that I needed to actively focus to read. Did not need to zoom or open the image separately at any point.
@davidrevoy Funny, in the drawing, I find the Kalam font nice and readable. But when it’s next to the other ones, I said to myself: “Nope too complex for the eye” before noticing it was the one used for the drawing. 😅
@Gend4r Oh nice! I had the same effect. Even worst: Patrick Hand (1) and Pangolin (2) are a bit 'monolithic' and massive when they are placed over the speechbubbles (not in the test) and fall flat for any charm.
But I receive also many feedback that Patrick Hand (1) is the easier to read. I wonder if it is the font-weight, the character spacing more compact, the non-italic, or something else. For sure, it looks like I'll have to fork or Kalam or PatrickHand and season it to my liking.
@davidrevoy 1 is the easiest to read, I had to open the image and zoom for the fonts in the bubbles, but not for font examples 1 and 2..! and I think 1 looks really cute!
@toffy Thank you for the feedback. My ideal would be a blend of (1) for readability and (3) for the charm and personality. I'm still not sure if I should fork Patrick Hand (1) or Kalam (3) as a starting point.
What do you think in 3 is the most difficult to read?
@davidrevoy I think what makes it difficult is the italic, and something I don't think has been mentioned yet: many of the lines that make up letters overextend a lot, like in the middle line in the "A" and "H", which adds noise and makes it harder to read fast. Some of the letters are hard to parse at a smaller res too, like the "W" is especially difficult where it wraps back on itself
3 has more personality but is definitely less readable, and that's my best guess as to why!! It might not be right aha, it's more stylish but just way more noisy and less standard
I'd love the shape-correctness of 1 with a hint of the style in 3 while maintaining a familiar shape ahah
@davidrevoy Yes, I can read this text, but I have a hard time deciding what’s better. Kalam most interesting, but harder to read, Patrick a bit dense, Pangolin least interesting, somewhat static …
@ArneBab Thank you! I feel like I should fork Kalam and make it a tiny bit thicker because I agree: this one has the most charm but its readability is not optimized. I probably also should bake the idea line-height as 100% to save time using it if I fork it.
Oh yes, fonts are hard, and changing it later in the project is almost impossible, so I try to prepare well this part ahead.
@davidrevoy forking Kalam sounds like a lot of work, too. I once added a few letters (äöüß) to a font I loved and even that took ages — though it just meant copying together stuff from other letters and tweaking it a bit.
Getting all that to fit together well seems like an art form.
@ArneBab 😺 After the work I did on Lavi (the base one for Pepper&Carrot) I'm not afraid of anything with font-forge! 😆 (missing accents, Latin extended, etc)
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