lauren,
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If you haven't already seen "V for Vendetta" (2005), you need to watch it now.

If you've seen it before, you need to watch it again.

kkeller,
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@lauren ironically, Alan Moore hated the film, because it wasn't exactly his vision for his comic. (I enjoyed it even though I felt the ending fell a bit flat.)

He also hated the Watchmen adaptation. Can't argue with him much there.

lauren,
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@kkeller Ray told me that he wasn't a fan of the 1966 "Fahrenheit 451". Personally, I love it. I will note that the wonderful guy Ray was, he still came out to speak at length at a screening of the film. One of the best people that ever was.

Films stand alone. It is completely reasonable to compare with the source work (especially if you're the latter's author!) but this need not detract from the film standing on its own merits in the vast majority of cases. There are, of course, exceptions where the film diverged so far from the source as to be a horrible mutation, but I find this to be relatively rare.

mrcompletely,
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@kkeller @lauren the vendetta film isn't too bad, though the comic is vastly superior. Moore is a character but he really is very brilliant

lauren,
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@mrcompletely @kkeller Most people watch movies, but they don't read comics.

mrcompletely,
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@lauren @kkeller certainly. And adaptation is a tricky business, one I suspect Moore misunderstands. He seems to think that a story can be translated between media directly, without significant transformation, which I'm sure you know isn't the case. But for those who have been intrigued by any of the movies made from his work, it might interest them to know that the comics are adult artworks of very great sophistication.

lauren,
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@mrcompletely @kkeller Not having read the comics (I stopped reading comics after the early Superman sequences, pretty much) I consider the film to be something of a masterpiece. Especially now.

Sidenote: There are YouTube videos discussing all the strange stuff you could buy from the backs of comic books back then. I still have a bunch of those items, somewhere!

mrcompletely,
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@lauren @kkeller modern comics, particularly since the generation that includes Moore, include a subset that are very literate and smart - a mature adult art form. Most of the medium is still heroes in tights and other children's stories (nothing wrong with it, but not my thing) but far from all. I'm not trying to sell you on it, more of an FYI - a medium much like TV, where most is low effort, low quality formulaic fluff, but the best series and episodes can be remarkable.

lauren,
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@mrcompletely @kkeller I've seen them. No kryptonite so I'm not really interested.

mrcompletely,
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@lauren @kkeller we all have our totems

kkeller,
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@mrcompletely @lauren I actually thought the V comic was a bit of a mess, with an even worse ending than the film. (Contrast with the Watchmen comic, which was mostly brilliant.)

mrcompletely,
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@kkeller @lauren possibly so - it's been awhile - I wouldn't list it among my favorite Moore works either way, but I recall thinking the film lost some specific points I thought the comic made better.

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