pvonhellermannn, (edited )
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I keep on looking at this map. The Gaza strip itself is already so small , one of the most densely populated parts of the world. And now everyone is supposed to cram into a minute part of this? And we are all supposed to appreciate this“humanitarian zone” - which has itself been repeatedly bombed already, too.

MaQuest,
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pvonhellermannn,
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@MaQuest oh god. What a piece. I had missed it before, thank you for sharing it.

boss,
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@pvonhellermannn
That's the last part of the process sadly started long ago.

pvonhellermannn,
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@boss yes!! That is exactly it. It is AWFUL.

urlyman,
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ArneBab,
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@boss on the left side you ignore that this included Jews.

In the second strip you left out „rejected by surrounding countries who started a war to claim all the land and destroy Israel — and lost“.

ArneBab,
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@pvonhellermannn We’re supposed to tell the Hamas leaders who sit in their comfortable homes in Qatar to order release of their hostages and agree to the offered ceasefire.

They just rejected one more offer for a ceasefire.

Everyone knows that this is a hell, but as long as Hamas keeps the hostages, it is the only way which offers a chance to end the hell the hostages are going through without re-instating the genocidal terrorists of Hamas into power — who would prepare for mass-murder again.

faab64,

@ArneBab @pvonhellermannn Hamas agreed to hostage deal. Netanyahu refused.

stop with your ridiculous lies to justify these atrocities

ArneBab,
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@faab64 do you have a source? Where did Hamas agree to a deal Israel offered?

⇒ need a Link to a reputable source.
@pvonhellermannn

faab64,

@ArneBab @pvonhellermannn I know you are a typical time waster who knows the truth, but keeps asking for source so I make an exception:

edition.cnn.com/2024/05/06/mid…

reuters.com/world/middle-east/…

theguardian.com/world/live/202…

are those reputable enough for you? or you will come back with another BS excuse to justify the war criminal Netanyahu and his genocidal policies?

ArneBab,
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@faab64 that’s not the offer from Israel.

Your sources say that explicitly: it is not the offer from Israel.

Israel made a clear offer. Hamas refused and requested changes. Again. As so often in the past weeks and months.

@pvonhellermannn

faab64,

@ArneBab @pvonhellermannn of course you come back with another disgusting BS response to support the ongoing genocide.

so go and fuck yourself.

ArneBab,
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@faab64 you sent sources that don’t say what you claim.

What do you expect?
@pvonhellermannn

billiglarper,
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@faab64 @ArneBab @pvonhellermannn

Hamas did not agree to the proposal that Egypt, Qatar and Israel had put on the table. This is a changed proposal with yet unknown content.

faab64,
billiglarper,
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ArneBab,
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@billiglarper did you see the post where @faab64 wrote sources that explicitly say that what Hamas agreed to was not the proposal by Israel?

https://venera.social/display/85a863ed-7866-3919-9b5b-c18792583998

@pvonhellermannn

faab64,

@billiglarper
So Israel is not interested in releasing the hostages.

You guys only trust the words of a rapist when someone talks about rape?

Because you seems to only trust in the words of genocidal army of Israel.
@ArneBab @pvonhellermannn

ArneBab,
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@faab64 you posted a claim and then gave sources that explicitly contradict that claim.

@billiglarper @pvonhellermannn

ArneBab,
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@faab64 I had hoped dearly that Hamas finally agreed to the deal from Israel.

That finally there’s a ceasefire and the hostages are released.

But Hamas refused and requested changes again that they must have known Israel couldn’t accept.

Your sources, not mine.
@billiglarper @pvonhellermannn

billiglarper,
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@ArneBab @pvonhellermannn

@faab64 is just insulting and sealioning without even trying to make sense. No point in wasting time on that troll.

faab64,

@billiglarper
It's not an insult.

Any POS who still support Israel after almost 7 months of ongoing genocide and war crime after war crime can go and fuck themselves.

They have no humanity in them and nothing can change their disgusting support of apartheid state of Israel and it's fascist coalition government.
@ArneBab @pvonhellermannn

ArneBab,
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@faab64 so this is not about finally getting a ceasefire deal for the palestinian civilians, but about being for or against Israel?
@billiglarper

supergrobi,
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ArneBab,
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@supergrobi „ Die Nachrichtenagentur Reuters zitierte einen nicht namentlich genannten israelischen Beamten mit den Worten, die Hamas habe einem "abgeschwächten" ägyptischen Vorschlag zugestimmt, der für Israel nicht akzeptabel sei.“

⇒ nicht das Waffenstillstandsangebot Israels.

@pvonhellermannn

RememberUsAlways,
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@pvonhellermannn

Ignorance is bliss.
Educate yourself here:
https://legal.un.org/avl/ha/icath/icath.html
The law is clear on the rescue of hostages. Minus this context, bias is obvious and history doesn't care about our bias.

opethminded,
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@pvonhellermannn Its the 63rd most densely populated area in the world, if facts matter.

pvonhellermannn,
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@opethminded oh, thank you. Will correct.

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