So tired of fake car safety activists screaming about how touch screens are inherently dangerous when they don't spend any time experiencing what it's like to switch between car manufacturers because they live in a world where they e.g., only buy Fords so nothing ever changes in their view and everything is familiar
I'm on a vacation and my mother in law who has been driving for 40 years can't figure out how to get her Nissan into Reverse because they made the shifter bizarrely complicated for no good reason at all
I'm driving this piece of shit to pick up some necessities and nearly getting killed because there's a million buttons and lights everywhere unlabeled, all the steering wheel controls -- of which there are far too many to be safe -- are in a completely different layout than every other car I've driven.
This shit complete lunacy. The problem isn't touch screens, it's familiarity. If you want cars to be safe you need to mandate a standard layout of all buttons and controls in every car. Zero deviation. Every car should be identical.
Give me back my Tesla, a car that's actually safe to drive and has as minimal of an interior as possible
@a32 I've never needed to dig into menus to change something important while the vehicle is moving. Voice controls generally work fine for those cases when other creature comforts are needed. Hell, my wife can change things from her phone if she was in the back seat
Cruise, wipers, lights, signals are all physical.
I think people are disillusioned into thinking you can't turn on your headlights without going into a menu or something
@feld Weren't the pedals of a car non standard over a century ago? I believe these got standardised in the current three (two) pedal layout, for safety reasons.
Now imagine trying to legislate a standard car UX in America.
NHTSA absolutely knows this would save countless lives by having a standard familiar driver experience, but the entire concept is anti-capitalist and anti-innovation.
@genmaicha Screens in cars should be industrial rated for temperature range, UV exposure, etc.
Plus it's easier to swap than dealing with all the wiring for all those buttons/controls.
Additionally modern cars also now have a computer that can fail and take them out too. Or they'll share wiring with other functionality. My Subaru had nonstop issues with o2 sensors and every time they went out it took out my cruise control too. How is this okay? (I'm aware there are improvements to CAN BUS and maybe a replacement, been a long time since I looked into it)
Modern cars have over a mile of wiring to support all this. Sounds impossible doesn't it? Now imagine how many of these cars go to the junkyard too early because of a wiring short and nobody can afford the cost of labor for a mechanic to successfully pinpoint it?
My friend @SlicerDicer repaired the ECU in his original Tesla Model S because it's just a giant computer board. It wasn't even that complicated. He has backup boards he can just swap in at will
@feld@genmaicha I just solved the one in my truck. Electrical issues are the worst but I’ve chased them in RVs, Cars and Boats. That’s usually how you get them super cheap. No one wants to take the time.
It’s actually really cool that people don’t otherwise I wouldn’t get such good deals.
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