froukehe9

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fehrtrade, to random
@fehrtrade@toot.community avatar

Day 21 of Covid* and I got to leave my bed and experience some fresh air as J set up the deck sofa for me.

So I can be… ill-fresco.

🙊😷

froukehe9,

@seachanger @fehrtrade

Do you have an idea where you may have been infected?

I find it difficult to estimate where I can go safely. How much protection do masks provide?

froukehe9,

@seachanger @fehrtrade

That's reassuring about masks.

I sometimes need to go into crowded spaces (e.g., GP waiting room, supermarkets, the hospital) and don't know how well my respirator mask protects me.

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froukehe9,

@currentbias @DenisCOVIDinfoguy @auscovid19

Covid and the heart:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2789793

Covid and dementia:
https://covid19.nih.gov/news-and-stories/rapid-progression-dementia-following-covid-19

Covid and cancer:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10202899/

Covid and diabetes:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00912-y

Covid and kidney disease:
https://www.radboudumc.nl/en/news-items/2021/kidney-damage-as-a-result-of-coronavirus-infection

erictopol, to random
@erictopol@mstdn.social avatar

The most comprehensive lab assessment of including the immune system, cortisol, other viral pathogens (such as EBV), & proteins differentiates those affected (aligned w/ self-reported symptoms) with very high (96%) accuracy
https://nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06651-y

froukehe9,

@erictopol

That's an impressive ROC curve. KNN is not even the most powerful classifier out there (often bagging and boosting methods outperform KNN).

timbray, (edited ) to random
@timbray@cosocial.ca avatar

Wondering about Long Covid (or Post-Covid Syndrome).
Do you know people who are suffering significantly as follows? (This is a multiple-choice poll.)

(pls boost if the subject interests you)

froukehe9,

@reneestephen @timbray

There is so much stigma associated with long Covid that people are unlikely to admit that they have long Covid.

I only know a few people at work, because they need to explain why they can no longer work. And often they will describe their symptoms (tired, headaches) rather than the relation with Covid.

What makes it difficult is that symptoms can arise weeks or months adter the infection and people no longer link them to Covid.

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

People will kling on to work as long as they can. So they might be at work, performing poorly, and when returning home from work have a quick bite and go to bed, simply to repeat it on the next day.

Wait one or two more years and then conclude whether you still don't see an increase.

froukehe9,

@jbqueru @timbray

This is what quite a bit of the scientific literature indicates.

I guess most people will say that you recovered?

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

Yes, it is "only" a 10 to 20% risk per infection. So if you had around 2 tot 3 infections thus far, it is not implausible that you are completely recovered.

Females are more often affected than males, so for males the risk is probably less than 10%.

So for males it is even more plausible to be fine after a few infections.

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

This is from a recent study on whether Paxlovid prevents long Covid.

"Events" in this graph are the onset of long Covid (which according to the definition only starts after 3 months, otherwise it is still "acute").

Note that the graph goes up to 18%.

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

"But everyone is sometimes a bit tired"

This study uses a control group and finds 10.4% long Covid for Omicron.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.04.05.23288157v1

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

The CDC reviewed the literature and found rates to vary between 7.5% and 41%.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7232a3.htm#:~:text=Long%20COVID%20includes%20a%20wide%20range%20of%20ongoing%20respiratory%2C%20neurologic,to%2041%25%20(1).

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

This paper mentions 10% to 30% of infections:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10036151/

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

This review finds 45% with at least oine symptom:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(22)00491-6/fulltext

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

Sounds like something to avoid.

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

Regular bronchitis can cause disability.

To aim for disability you can also jump in front of cars of from bridges, eat raw eggs and smoke cigarettes. No more worries about any of these things. You can't live in fear forever.

Do you see how disabling yourself has been promoted?

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/chronic-bronchitis#:~:text=Chronic%20bronchitis%20may%20cause%3A,of%20your%20breathing%20tubes%20(bronchi)

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

But what will you do if you health becomes so poorly that you can no longer work?

Are you having enough financial resources to pay for care and the regular bills while your income drops?

It is the forced risk of disability that it the problem. Not being able to care yourself any longer.

And that is likely to happen well before 95 if you keep on catching Covid.

What are you going to do then? Jump off a bridge?

froukehe9,

@Schouten_B @josh @timbray

It is easy to say, "I do not need to live until 95"

But Covid is unlikely to kill you. It is likely to disable you.

It is getting disabled that is the problem. No longer able to work and earn a living. Homeless, not being able to access care. Being left to rot in the streets.

Current good health provides some protection, but only to a limited extent.

augieray, to random
@augieray@mastodon.social avatar

11 infant deaths in 11 years, and the government acts to regulate infant rockers.

At least 1,642 children deaths of in 3.5 years in the US (as of June 14, 2023), and it's “Hey kids, cram into those classrooms with no new rules for safe air during an evolving and ongoing pandemic! And don't forget to wash your hands to protect yourself from the airborne virus!”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/infant-rockers-deaths-consumer-product-safety-commission-rcna103589

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1191568/reported-deaths-from-covid-by-age-us/

froukehe9,

@augieray @Krooney

They remind children that there is still a pandemic going on.

We surely cannot do that to our children? 😋

augieray, to random
@augieray@mastodon.social avatar

What does a world look like where we let rip through the population repeatedly on an annual basis? Where people allow themselves to be infected time and again with a disease that causes chronic damage to our bodies? We don't know, but this is precisely what it COULD look like 🧵 :

froukehe9,

@augieray

The problem is that most people are forced into accepting unsafe conditions. In schools, in medical settings and at work. People then get the sense "I can't prevent this, so let's better not think about it too much".

Instead what we need is collective action. Demand safe schools, hospitals en workplaces.

Misinformation is another factor: Even our governments still suggest that we should wash our hands and that masks are not needed.

froukehe9,

@augieray

Yes, you can always wear a mask (people won't like it, but you can ignore that) and avoid non-essential locations (again, people won't like it, but you can ignore that).

It will reduce the risk of infection quite substantially, but won't take it away completely.

It is sad that people are put in these situations.

Juicyfranck, to random
@Juicyfranck@zeroes.ca avatar

Reminder for everyone who is still taking seriously, including avoiding high risk scenarios (indoor/crowded), wearing a mask, and pushing for better air:

It may feel once again/still that we are somehow wrong.

We're not. We're being gaslit (still).

We were not wrong in the past, in every precaution we took. And the data has proven it over time (number of cases, severity of infection, , etc.)

It's still happening, and we will once again be proven right for being safe. Covid has not changed. It has not magically become less dangerous or less transmissable.

The only thing that changed is the visibility and media coverage.

Being cautious is never the wrong thing to do.

froukehe9,

@Juicyfranck

The medical literature is clear. (Repeated) Covid infections are bad for your health.

We are in this together: If you can prevent an infection, you can also prevent infecting someone else. My mask protects you, your mask protects me.

eniko, to random
@eniko@peoplemaking.games avatar

i love how anti-maskers are always like "do you think we should continue wearing masks forever?" when people talk about the dangers of covid, as if thats some kind of game-winning gotcha

well, the alternative to masking is catching covid 2-3 times a year, a disease which gives you cardiovascular damage, strokes, brain damage, nerve damage, diabetes, chronic fatigue, lung damage, and dementia. among many other things. and the risk of all of those goes up geometrically the more times you get infected

so, idk man, should we continue to wear masks for the foreseeable future? yes, because i think wearing a mask when out and about is a lot less harmful than any let alone all of those

froukehe9,

@grrrr_shark @LevZadov @lkmad @eniko @Tijn

Nope, most of Europe too.

augieray, to random
@augieray@mastodon.social avatar

Masks work. "Our model quantitatively links mask efficacy to reductions in viral load & subsequent transmission risk. Our results reinforce that the use of masks by both a potential transmitter & exposed person substantially reduces the probability of successful transmission, even if masks only lower exposure viral load by ~50%. Slight increases in mask adherence/efficacy above current levels would reduce the effective reproductive number substantially below 1." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-91338-5

froukehe9,

@augieray

This is what Brendan Crabb has been saying for at least a year. We are close to R = 1 and the smallest changes would bring R already below 1.

https://www.rrr.org.au/explore/podcasts/uncommon-sense/episodes/6333-professor-brendan-crabb-on-the-scientific-reality-of-covid-19-for-all-australians

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