Now that some time has passed, what do you like and dislike about kbin?

I like that kbin is smaller compared to some lemmy instances. I also prefer the UI. Bigger communities tend to feel a bit overwhelming for me. I also appreciate how transparent Ernest has been regarding kbin's development. That said, it's been a bit challenging to figure out how to utilize some of the federation features that kbin has to offer--microblogging in particular. From what I've seen, people don't generally seem too interested in this feature, but I think it's nice to have.

novamdomum,
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I'm a reddit refugee and as a non technical person I actually prefer kbin to reddit. It's nice and simple and I get all the content I need easily. The only thing I wish was 1 click less is viewing images/videos. At the moment I seem to have to click on a post to go to that posts page and then click on the image/video in that post to see it full size. I wish I could just go through my feed expanding and dismissing images and videos with 1 click without having to load a separate page. Kbin is awesome though and definitely my home for the foreseeable :)

daredevil,
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The only thing I wish was 1 click less is viewing images/videos.

When you want to check out an image/video post, there's a little icon to the left of the comments underneath the title of the post. You can click on that to view the image/video without needing to open the thread. :)

novamdomum,
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Oh my goodness! Thanks :D

resurrexia,

You can even have it setup to autoload expanded. Check the sidebar.

guyrocket,
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Sidebar not available on mobile, right?

ripcord,
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It is, but getting to it is...weird.

HidingCat,

Wish there was one for text posts though!

daredevil,
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I agree, one will probably come in time.

calmblue75,

Reddit refugee here. Joined Kbin during the subreddit protest. Still finding my way through here...
Like: People seem to be more decent here, less trolls.
Dislike: No infinite scrolling.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568,
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Things I like:

  • The interface is great, and it's the main reason I chose Kbin over Lemmy. The UI is just much more aesthetically pleasing, especially with the Tokyo night theme and with custom userstyles.
  • Microblog integration is really convenient. I don't use it a ton, but it's nice to be able to view Mastodon content from the same place as all the stuff in the threadiverse. Magazines being able to collect microblogs with certain tags is also great (e.g., the !pixelart microblog section collects anything with the tag). Being able to follow tags to have in your subscribed feed would be awesome.
  • The community on kbin magazines is really nice. I do wish there was more activity, but I love the interactions I have here.

Things to improve:

  • Activity is lacking in most magazines. I try to post and comment—I'm doing so a lot more than I did on Reddit—but not a lot of people are doing the same.
  • There are quite a few annoying bugs. Posting brings you to an error page (even though the posting still works), image uploading doesn't have any visual feedback, and blocking any domain causes comments to disappear.
  • Federation is far from perfect. Some stuff doesn't federate for seemingly no reason, and downvotes don't federate at all.
  • This is a general issue throughout the fediverse, but there isn't really a built-in guide explaining federation, yet understanding federation and its intricacies is kind of a prerequisite to using the fediverse (since federation is far from seamless and can be quite inconsistent). What doesn't help is the attitude that people who don't get federation are dumb or should just try harder.

There are other issues I have, like the lack of a subscription panel, but these can be fixed with userscripts. Even so, stuff like this should be part of the base functionality, or at the very least there should be prominent links to these userscripts until it can get added.

daredevil,
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I agree with pretty much everything you mentioned. Regarding the activity, I wish there was a bit more effort from others as well. I can understand why they don't though--I was typically a lurker as well. It's just unfortunate when I see posts from users that want to see more content as well before they feel incentivized to contribute, which unfortunately serves to perpetuate the problem. Not saying this is you (also not trying to antagonize any lurkers, because again, I understand), it's just something I've observed. That said, I appreciate what folks like Ernest are doing. #Kbin and the rest of the #fediverse resonate with me conceptually, so I'll continue trying to support it how I can.

ThatOneKirbyMain2568, (edited )
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Of course, it's fine for people to be lurkers—I was one in the vast majority of the subreddits I joined—but the advice I'd give to everyone is that if you're upset that there's not much content or that something isn't being talked about, make that content! That's been the approach I've been using. If I think, "Man, I wish there was a post on this," I make that post. Again, it's understandable for people to lurk, but I do wish more people who were dissatisfied with activity tried to help fix the issue as opposed to abandoning the concept of the fediverse or using it much less.

daredevil,
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I could not agree more--I've also been trying to engage with content by sorting through "New" more regularly. It's now my preferred method for discovering content.

theinspectorst,
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Overall I like the culture that's developing on Kbin - things feels kinder and more personal here than on Reddit. The integration with Mastodon is a great feature too.

There are still some UI things that need sorting. It still irritates me how many clicks it takes to get to a simple list of my subscribed magazines, and even then that list is spread over several pages and inexplicably not alphabetical. This should be accessible in one click from the top menu (as it was on Reddit and I know it is on Lemmy).

ripcord,
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I feel like pretty much all the ui things like that, including lack of conversation collapsing, the weird ways to get to various settings, sorting by hot being really awful, etc - are all the same as when I first started. It feels like development stopped over a month ago. I haven't seen a post or comment from Ernest in at least that long, either.

theinspectorst,
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He posted on Kbinmeta yesterday. He's been busy with family matters but is still spending all his free time worrying on Kbin and working towards a full release at the end of September.

ripcord,
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Just thought to look him up and saw it. It was a good post. I also just donated some money.

Vuipes,
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I like that Kbin has microblog, tags feature. With that I can browse mastodon content easily.
Another one is filter posts by type, for example If I want only Threads (text only).

The things I doesn't like are mirror but:

  • no third party apps (yet?)
  • search function could be better (no advanced search, and different buttons for magazine/posts search)
  • upvote vs boost is confusing
tjhart85,
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For apps, Artemis exists, but only works on artemis.camp until the API is official, but you can grab it and check it out. Pretty sweet already.

Upvote means "I like what you said and want you to know it".
Boost means "I like what you said and want others to see it too!". Think of it like a re-tweet or whatever it's called on Mastodon (re-toot?).

ETA: I believe the dev of Artemis is also planning on open sourcing their KBIN<->lemmy translation layer once everything is confirmed to make it easier for others to add support to their apps too

MeccAnon,
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Among all Fediverse softwares, Kbin is the one I like the most - from the clean interface to the local community, which I really like - just the right balance between serious topics and memes, and decent comment quality.

Even if I'm most active on some federated communities, I don't plan to switch anytime soon.

The only headscratcher that - more than "not like", just puzzled me a bit - is the different naming convention (magazines, microblogs, etc.), but again it's a small thing.

all-knight-party,

I've found it a little tricky to find an instance that has a dedicated, transparent instance owner who doesn't disappear while making sure the instance doesn't throw 500 errors when you view certain pages. I started on Fedia which had tons of 500 errors when I tried to view my own profile or subscriptions, which seems to have gotten better, but still has intermittent issues.

Then I came to kbin.cafe, but it seems like the instance owner went poof, and I get 500 errors if I try to change my profile picture. I think most of this is because the software is still relatively early in development.

Otherwise it does feel as if Kbin is handling every other facet well, it's just early on and buggy and hard for instance owners to keep up.

Haus,
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I think - and please correct me if I'm wrong - that if you add items to the keyword box when creating a post/adding a link, your item shows up to mastadon users who follow that hashtag. I know that mastodon users occasionally interact with my links, and AFAIK that doesn't happen with Lemmy posts.

daredevil,
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I appreciate the suggestion, however, I generally do as you suggested for other posts that I want to increase discoverability for. I also have issues when trying to bring in content from the rest of the fediverse into a particular magazine via tags. That said, I don't want to make this a troubleshooting thread as this isn't the intended magazine for that.

TeaHands,
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Fwiw Madison users can and do interact on Lemmy too. Although it’s more of a one-way interaction at the moment (they can post to Lemmy, we can’t post to Mastodon), so if Kbin can actually post there with hashtags that’s pretty cool!

Haus,
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It's really nuanced, and I only slightly understand it. I think I can post a link from kbin to a lemmy community, and the keywords will be searchable for mastodon users - which is a primary way people use mastodon.

If you do a text post from lemmy and insert hashtags in the text, I think those hashtags are searchable on mastodon. But, if you do a link post, there's no mechanism to add hashtags.

But this is all an educated guess.

TeaHands,
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Nah the second example you gave (Lemmy > Mastodon) sadly doesn’t work, although I’m hopeful it might one day! Any attempts to add hashtags from the Lemmy side just turn up as plain text on Mastodon. Can you tell I’ve experimented a lot? 😅

I do enjoy posting from Mastodon to Lemmy though, and presume it would work the same way if I wanted to post to a Kbin magazine too. It’s nice to have all the discussion from both platforms all in one thread, rather than posting separately. The trick is just formatting the post so it looks like it belongs on both platforms, which is easier said than done sometimes!

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