Sure hope so. I was deciding between lemmy, kbin and squabbles. Only lemmy and kbin are federated and kbin seems much less of a hassle to get started with.
Well fuck. Last time I visited deviantart must have been before the acquisition by Wix. Makes what spez et al are doing to reddit look better in comparison.
Is there a fediverse version of old deviantart yet?
Mobile browser access. Because otherwise people would be doing fun things like browsing reddit with an adblocker to get around the 3rd party stuff. I'm sure that will convince people, especially once old.reddit is no longer a thing. Not like everyone who uses that doesn't cling to it like a drowning man
I was trying to find out why I couldn't log in here, the only answer I could find was on reddit, I couldn't work out why I couldn't see the page without the app. This is a super dumb idea.
@Nepenthe man the only reason I installed an ad blocker was to disable the shitty nagging to install their app. They really really jonesing for app installs. That along with the API pricing paints a shit picture. They would do much better to develop an app people want to use instead of trying to force people on to it.
They would do much better to develop an app people want to use instead of trying to force people on to it.
You'd think, right? I never understood why so many companies got all pissy about their competition instead of just...analyzing what's being done right and doing that themselves.
Ex., Nintendo slamming their own fans for thousands of dollars in damages instead of just....hiring them. Or at least taking tons of notes since the fangame ideas are visibly more original than what the actual company is churning out.
They're literally telling Nintendo what they'd pay some serious bucks for without even being asked, but all they get is punished as the franchise flaunts yet another sentient, carnivorous shoe or whatever.
Reddit's site is such a steaming pile millions of people will voluntarily stop using it forever if they can't have the upgrades someone else developed in their spare time. It's been that way for years. JUST FIX YOUR STUPID SITE AND THEN NO ONE WOULD HAVE CARED.
I get that Reddit is dismantling all means of accessing the site without ads or forced frills like chat. But this “experiment” doesn’t even make sense. The only users that will even experience it are mobile users trying to avoid using the crappy app. There is no feedback report or anything. Just locking out some random users.
Probably not a good time to do so though as some users switch from their current app to the reddit one when they hear it will stop working... Unless they're trying to justify getting rid of mobile browsing and want to over-inflate the conversion rate.
The posts in the picture are at least a month old, and I seem to remember this happening much longer ago than that. Unless someone's heard otherwise, I don't think they're doing this right now.
Yeah, they can’t even pretend that current mobile site users don’t know about the official app, because basically every page you click on mobile Reddit does a full screen “Heeeeeey why don’t you view this on our APP!!!” that you have to click through. So anyone using the mobile site is doing so veeeeery intentionally.
Exactly the users they want to get rid of. That’s what people are missing about these recent moves by Reddit: it’s all about clearing house of undesirable “technical” users in favor of the low-information masses, like those who populate TikTok, Twitter, Facebook, etc. Why? Because they’re easier to dupe for advertisers, and are therefore more profitable.
Technologically and sociologically literate users are hard to make money off of. Rubes are easy. Hence the push to depower and marginalize literate power users, since they are a threat to their advertising revenue.
Yep presume they just want people who are happy to be inundated with ads they can't block whilst reading fake corporate shill posts from PR companies hyping products.
Seems like they're gonna shoot themselves in the foot though. The technologically and sociologically literate users are the ones that are most likely making the best content. Even if they're not seeing the ads, they're bringing in the eyeballs that do see the ads. There's a reason that you have to append site:reddit.com after just about every google search to get anything good. That might not be the case going forward.
Even some nsfw that post for fun have said they aren't going to post anymore because they use 3rd party apps to post. Theres a chance that a lot of NSFw posters use 3rd part apps. How else can they post to 10 subs in one go?
Everyone wants simple dead brain content from time to time, but there's a ton of sources for that other than reddit. If I'm not on reddit in the first place, chances are I won't go there just to look at cat videos and memes that I can find elsewhere on the internet without jumping through reddit's new hoops.
As someone here for mostly brain-dead entertainment, I have to say, I'd much rather still be able to be mindless in my consumption without a barrage of Big Dick pills, Came on Jesus ads, or any number of minor annoyances (that damned email banner anyone?).
It'll be interesting to see what happens when Google's manifest v3 (I think thats what its called... the chromium revamp) takes effect. From what I've read, that seems to be thought of as a major roadblock for ad-blockers on all chromium based browsers, unless they hard fork prior.
Chrome's evil + Reddit's = welcome to 1999 where the ads just bombard you from all angles faster than you can close the windows.
Seems like they're gonna shoot themselves in the foot though. The technologically and sociologically literate users are the ones that are most likely making the best content.
In the long term yes, but that will take a while. For now the current leadership team and investors don't care because they will have cashed out and moved on to something else long before Reddit fully dies. I guarantee Huffman will be gone from Reddit in the next 18 months with a fat pile of cash.
I was thinking about that, and it's maddening and sad.
I too have always believed that scaring away the people who create that best content would be the doom or reddit, and it wouldn't take much since content creators are always a tiny minority of a social userbase, but what if u/criticalma55 is right?
What if "we" who value quality content are also a minority? What if the majority of reddit users are perfectly fine with bot reposts and shitposting?
I mean, I was active of reddit until the blackout began and I've seen several people saying they didn't even know 3rd party apps existed, many saying "I always used the official app, what's wrong with it?". I bet many people don't even know what's happening, and won't notice the difference if reddit goes on reposting stuff during the blackout, I've seen a few screenshots of comments that were very obviously written by AI, but how many will notice?
So maybe reddit is indeed trying to angry us as much as possible to push us all away and leave on reddit only the "low-information" masses that don't care and will take whatever shit reddit throws at them without battling an eye, they have enough content at this point to repost for years.
I was there, and it wasn't pretty - for Digg. It turns out the switching costs for social media link sites are comically low. Another round of VCs, other investors, and deluded CEOs are about to find that out the hard way.
I choose to believe this is 100% in response to the guy that made the iOS Safari extension yesterday that blocks all the nagging about logging in or downloading the app
Most people interact with the site through a mobile device, so if they force you to switch to the app, not only do they not have to maintain a mobile interface, but you can't use a browser based ad blocker.
Ah so this is how they’ll kill old Reddit. “We’re just running an A/B test” (spoiler: all users are on track B). “You’ll regain access at the end of the experiment” (spoiler: indefinite experiment)
I have to say, Reddit’s death at the hand of spez and Twitter’s demise at the hands of Musk have to be two of the most egregious stories of corporate mismanagement in recent years.
And I doubt this is adhering to the beta opt-in setting. Instead of making an app that people actually WANT to use, they create all this bullshit to FORCE people to use it. Really reminds me of those predatory FOMO tactics that a lot of online games nowadays use to keep users return to the game, or even pay for it, like battlepasses. I don't understand why companies have to be dirty like that, instead of just convincing people through offering a great product? I guess for every old user / player that goes, there's a bunch of new ones that come in that are completely unaware of how good things used to be.
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