@appassionato@palestine their blood is on the hands of Hamas who took the civilian population as hostages.
Hamas is acting irresponsible and should surrender and lay down their arms immediately.
@LuciusVorenus@appassionato@palestine
How could they lay down their arms? They are under orders of their best friend BiBi Netanyahu who finances and needs them to prevent a two-state solution and a free Palestine.
@TSAguilar46@appassionato@palestine
The IDF have no reason to surrender. Why should they? The day the Palestinians lay down their arms there will be peace.
The day the IDF lays down their arms those Hamas guys will come back and kill civilians at rave festivals and kibbutz kindergartens.
Israel was founded on terrorism and ethnic cleansing. They have never stopped since the founding. And now they have progressed to genocide. So yes, we recognize evil.
@jburd@TSAguilar46@appassionato@palestine
Israel was founded on a resolution of the UN. It was attacked immediately and one of the first things of this war was the ethnical cleansing of 20.000 Jews who lived in Jerusalem in May 1948 when Israel was less than 2 weeks old.
You want to play the blame game? No problem.
@jburd@TSAguilar46@appassionato@palestine
That's wrong. The ethnical cleansing in this conflict started with the removal of the Jewish population of east Jerusalem.
You should learn some history. The ethnic cleansing started in earnest in 1947. Hundreds of thousands were ethnically cleansed before Israel was formed. Here's just one event:
So yet again you say that it's ok for zionists like yourself to consider yourselves to be racially superior. Kind of like how others like you stated these things on youtube:
@Unicron@LuciusVorenus@TSAguilar46@appassionato@palestine
That was a 'ceasefire' protest and
"If your response to a massacre is to call for a "ceasefire" instead of the immediate release of the hostages and dismantlement of the perpetrators - you may not be an antisemite, but you're really dumb."
The fact is that there's not a day that goes by where extremists like you aren't trying to goad others into retaliating so that you can scream "VICTIM" and claim to be "defending yourself.
That's because he's part of HASBARA. They have a list of things given them by the israeli ministray of propaganda to cut and paste so they don't have to think for themselves.
@LuciusVorenus@TSAguilar46@appassionato@palestine "If you say there is “genocide” without saying that if Hamas laid down its weapons today there would be peace, but if Israel does the same it will be eliminated - you’re an antisemite."
@fuller@appassionato@palestine
YOU are the real antisemite! No doubt.
With every one of your non-sensical toots and ludicrous assumptions you promote antisemitism.
@fuller@appassionato@palestine
I do NOT despise Jews at all as many of my colleagues and neighbours will confirm.
I just despise brainless twerps 💩 like you - no matter what they are or claim to be.
@LuciusVorenus@TSAguilar46@appassionato@palestine
"If you compare death tolls like they’re basketball scores without acknowledging that Hamas is the source, and that they use their own people as human shields, preventing them from leaving dangerous areas despite the IDF warning them to - you’re an antisemite."
How does that explain people who have gone south, only to have the IDF attack them as they travel AND start bombing and shelling the south of gaza? If that were being done to you, you would be screaming your head off that you were being "holocausted", but you think it's perfectly ok if you're doing it to others.
"Never again, to ANYONE!" - Hejo Meyer
@Unicron@LuciusVorenus@TSAguilar46@appassionato@palestine
"If you say Israel attacks indiscriminately, and not in precise airstrikes against Hamas targets that happen to be purposly placed in schools, hospitals, and mosques – you’re an antisemite.
If you say Israel attacks just to “punish” Palestinians, and not in order to prevent more harm to Israelis from stockpiled weapons and terrorists – you’re an antisemite."
Israeli attacks are VERY precise...
And by your own statement you help further prove that israel is DELIBERATELY targeting civilians.
Of course, I already knew that from my inside sources.
@Unicron@LuciusVorenus@TSAguilar46@appassionato@palestine
"If you compare death tolls like they’re basketball scores without acknowledging that Hamas is the source, and that they use their own people as human shields, preventing them from leaving dangerous areas despite the IDF warning them to - you’re an antisemite."
@fuller@LuciusVorenus@appassionato@palestine
The simplistic accusation: If you don't love BiBi Netanyahu and his bombing campaign killing thousands of Palestinians - you are an antisemite.
Here is a response from a Jew to a Jew about "Human Shields":
Norman Finkelstein EXPOSES Who REALLY Uses Human Shields https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMTuRM8d28o
@TSAguilar46@fuller@appassionato@palestine Norman Finkelstein is the useful idiot for every political crook in the world.
Netanjahu is an corrupt asshole. That doesn't change the fact the palestinian leaders are either even more corrupt (Abbas) or outright fascists (Hamas).
@TSAguilar46@LuciusVorenus@appassionato@palestine one should ask how did Hamas get all these weapons when Israel controls EVERY border crossing, and has that land under constant surveillance? Who paid for the weapons? And with their superior surveillance how did the Israeli army get caught by surprise?
@LuciusVorenus@appassionato@palestine
Yet even before hamas, Israel was bombing and terrorizing the people of gaza, just as they do in the west bank.
If you want to see how the zionist extremists REALLY behave check out this compilation of videos from over the past decades that they got deleted from the internet to keep us from learning the truth. https://www.transfernow.net/dl/20231023ecOq03gj/CVP63GfY
@LuciusVorenus@appassionato@palestine
ONLY according to zionist extremists like yourself.
You're like the MAGAs here in the USA, who declare facts to be lies while believing a bunch of fantasyland BS spouted by CAPTAIN SPRAYTAN.
@LuciusVorenus@appassionato@palestine The blood is in the hands of the people that pressed the trigger and the people that fund them and sold them the bombs.
Hamas is not the Palestinian government (there isn't one) and to argue that the genocide in Gaza is justified by Hamas is nothing but a poor excuse for genocide.
@argumento@appassionato@palestine
No it's not an poor excuse.
That's what the Geneva convention and other international law says about the rules of armed conflict.
As IDF spokesperson R Adm Daniel Hagari stated “the emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy”. Indiscriminate attacks on civilians are prohibited under the Geneva Conventions and are a war crime. Deliberate starvation of a population is a war crime. The list goes on. You are an apologist for genocide.
No, I am not. I understand that food is delivered into Gaza and an emphasis on damage does not mean that an attack is not on a military target.
Civilians have been requested to leave north Gaza and created a war zone. This is how you prevent civilian casualties: Remove civilians from the area of fighting.
The same thing did the Americans before they bombed Caen in the 1944 in Operation Overlord or before they attacked Fallujah in 2007.
Before this genocide 500 trucks per day were entering Gaza with food and supplies. Allowing 20 trucks in is a trickle and only so cheap propagandists like you will have something to post.
@jburd@argumento@appassionato@palestine
I will be back in 8 weeks than we will talk about how many starved to death. Then it will be a war crime and I will plead for punishment of the responsible.
Netanyahu is a jerk and should be locked up anyway.
@LuciusVorenus@jburd@appassionato@palestine I'll be demonstrating and protesting the massacre while you sit on your ass, waiting to see how many people starve and if it is or not a war crime.
No we won't. Based on your posts here you know little about the history, what's currently happening or international law. You are adding nothing to the conversation but blatantly false propaganda.
Israel is bombing the entire Gaza strip. There is nowhere to go.
Médecins Sans Frontières calls for an immediate ceasefire to prevent more deaths in Gaza and allow desperately needed humanitarian supplies in. ... the bombing by the Israeli forces has intensified to a degree not seen until now: northern Gaza is being razed to the ground, while the whole Strip is being hit and civilians have no place to take shelter.
Or has Hamas declared a non-defended locality and removed all combatants from there?
I am not aware of that, and honestly, I don't believe Hamas would remove it's combatants from such an area.
The blood of these civilians is on Hamas. They should surrender immediately.
@LuciusVorenus@jburd@appassionato@palestine the IDF targeted the All Ahli Baptist hospital, churches and mosques where refugees where bidding, plua God know how many civilian buildings and houses, bakeries, etc.
All with the "highest precision" weapons. And they have been doing it for 3 weeks. Maybe you shouldn't engage in debates if you're so poorli acquainted with the issue.
@LuciusVorenus@argumento@appassionato@palestine The evidence cited by the IDF that it was a failed rocket from Islamic Jihad (not Hamas) rocket turns out to be BS. Like the fake video they posted and removed and the fake conversation they posted. As with anything coming from the IDF it has to be taken with a large dose of skepticism due to their history of lying and fabricating evidence.
@jburd@LuciusVorenus@appassionato@palestine the IDF warned about bombing the Al Ahli Baptist Hospital, and then did it, and has warned that they'll bomb other hospitals, including the Al Quds Hospital in Gaza.
Israel is flattening entire neighbourhoods indiscriminately. They bomb people moving south. They have blocked food, water, electricity, fuel, the internet and telephones. Your arguments here are disingenuous. This is a genocide.
@jhavok@appassionato@palestine
Surprise surprise, there are Hamas supporters in the west Bank, too, and the Fatah has its own terrorist wing.
The PLO even pays a salary to the families of murderers imprisoned in Israeli prisons.
@Alan_Smithee69@jhavok@appassionato@palestine
Lol, you are the fascist, you support the fascists and their cause and not smart enough to realize what kind of people and causes you support
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