robchapman,
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When are Threads doing the federation bit??

I wonder because, at some point I guess I'll have to find a new server that is part of the fedipact.

folkerschamel, (edited )
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@robchapman

It seems that has no specific schedule for adding support to beyond the generic initial announcement.

It may never happen, who knows.

At least currently they obviously have other priorities.

By the way, in you can easily block a server like yourself without having to migrate to a different server.

robchapman,
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@folkerschamel Ok thanks, personally hope they stay away,, I simply do not trust or use anything owned by Meta.

As for blocking other domains, I already have Threads.net pre-blocked. I did it via preferences - data import, by uploading a CSV file containing Threads.net among, However there is already conjecture as to whether simply domain blocking Threads will protect your privacy if/when they join the fediverse.
https://privacy.thenexus.today/just-blocking-threads-isnt-enough/

folkerschamel,
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@robchapman

This mistress-mantisse thing was a fundamentally different situation: When creating a / / account, then you provide a lot of private information.

But if joins the , then will be able to access the same public information about you which it can access already today. And blocking does not make any difference.

In general:

Always be aware that all posts on are public!
For private data use or similar.

robchapman,
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@folkerschamel i know that, but the article leans into problems with federation, is the point I was making.

Simply blocking Threads will solve nothing, far better is to keep the gate shut from them....they have a social network, if you want to connect with Threads users, get a Threads account. Stay away from the fediverse.

As For private data I already use Signal, sadly it's not social media, but E2EE social media, I like it.

folkerschamel,
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@robchapman

The article is containing some false technical information, risking giving people a false sense of privacy. For example:
"With today's software, the only obvious way to protect against #1 is not to have any followers on instances that federate with Meta."
That's not correct. can access already today all your public data. No blocking will protect against that. Blocking won't protect your privacy.

The only effect of blocking is that you personally see less posts. That's all.

robchapman,
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@folkerschamel i have no doubt they will be able to get around the non follower issue if and when they federate, Especially if nothing is done.

Far better would be to have some instances that federates with Threads, and then create a kind of firewall between those and the rest of the fediverse, who want nothing to do with them.

3 words: Facebook, Cambridge Analytica

They'll never change

folkerschamel,
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@robchapman

30% of registered users are on servers planning to federate with .

servers host 10% of users.

60% of users are on servers w/o info about their stance on . Technical default would be federating.

Largest server planning to federate with is mastodon.social hosting 15% of users. Largest server planning to block is mstdn.social hosting 2% of users.

https://fedipact.veganism.social https://instances.social/instances.json

robchapman,
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  • folkerschamel,
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    @robchapman

    New users can easily choose between many servers and multiple apps.

    And even when using the most popular app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.joinmastodon.android, which is developed by the same non-profit which runs mastodon.social and favors that server for an easier onboarding, it does not "automatically onboarded to Mastodon.Social, before you selected your server yourself", but you get the choice between "Join mastodon.social" or "Pick my own server". https://www.theverge.com/2023/5/1/23707019/mastodon-account-creation-twitter-alternative

    folkerschamel, (edited )
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    @robchapman

    Also some clarification about the numbers:

    It's not 60% of servers, but 60% of users are on such servers.

    It's also not 10% of users who support the , but 10% of users are on servers which support the . Not all users on such servers support the . I vaguely remember that some server admin posted about polling their users getting 52% support or so. Also vice versa, users like you support but live on non-fedipact servers.

    me,

    @folkerschamel @robchapman Doing so will not stop them from being able to scrape your info though.

    Fediblock won't do it 100% either, but it'll make it slightly more difficult.

    robchapman,
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    @me

    I'd read about this back before Threads launched.

    Though the fedipact won't stop them, it will at least make it harder for them, (like a preemptive block of Threads won't do anything now, though I did it anyway) hence my original toot.

    Though I have now learned that Threads coming across is a long way away...personally I hope they stay away full stop.

    I Don't use META products, I Don't trust META products.

    folkerschamel,
    @folkerschamel@mastodon.social avatar

    @robchapman @me

    Personally currently I don't use any products and currently have no plans for doing this.
    But I think it would be great to be able to interact with people on with my account. So I hope that will implement

    In general I like the idea of technology using open standards, breaking up barriers and facilitating communication and exchange between people.

    me,

    If you post something and someone on a non fedi-pact server boosts it, Threads will be able to see it. There's also the possibility of scraping an instance's front end and user RSS feeds.

    folkerschamel,
    @folkerschamel@mastodon.social avatar

    @me

    Yes.

    Whatever you post on is public information. No blocking can prevent this.

    In fact, this is a core philosophy of and .

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