FediPact: Defederating Meta, Together

bytor,
@bytor@mastodon.xyz avatar

Unpopular opinion:

The against Threads will do more harm than good to and the .

adnan,
@adnan@1210.nl avatar

@bytor I did not sign the because I am on my own family & friends instance and I want the choice to use my fediverse identity to talk to threads.

However I recognize that very large instances harm the distributed nature of the fediverse. It becomes centralized for all practical purposes.

Just off the top of my head, no instance / admin should control the experience of more than 1% of people of fediverse.

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

threads is paying people to post with their "bonus program" and yes ofc it's scummy lmao

The Threads bonus is an invite-only bonus program that lets you earn money on your Threads content... Based on the performance [and] number of posts you create.

is this really the vibe we want them bringing to the fediverse???

https://help.instagram.com/2449746995226910

xgranade,
@xgranade@wandering.shop avatar

@FediPact I would love to know whom they're paying...

FediPact,
@FediPact@cyberpunk.lol avatar

Why Meta is looking to the fediverse as the future for social media

“You could imagine an extension to the protocol eventually — of saying like, ‘I want to support micropayments,’ or … like, ‘hey, feel free to show me ads, if that supports you.’ Kind of like a way for you to self-label or self-opt-in. That would be great,” Cottle noted, speaking casually. Whether or not Meta would find a way to get a cut of those micropayments, of course, remains to be seen.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/25/why-meta-is-looking-to-the-fediverse-as-the-future-for-social-media/

tokyo_0,
@tokyo_0@mas.to avatar

@FediPact We're not even a year into their involvement and they're already making statements like this out in the open. smh

coffeepine,
@coffeepine@beige.party avatar

@FediPact They are basically already telling you what the plan is: They see this as another space to push ads to and find ways to part you from money.

Facebook needs to be resisted.

boogah,
@boogah@simian.rodeo avatar

Reminder: It’s not too late to either sign (or ask your server admin to sign) .

https://fedipact.online/

If your instance won’t sign on, find a smaller instance that already has. There’s a list of a few hundred listed over on the fedipact site. 😉

We don’t need the “flagship” instances that will put up with the corporate colonization of this beautiful network that we’ve all built together.
https://kolektiva.social/

movodehe,
@movodehe@social.tchncs.de avatar

When I try to visit @barackobama with @apps from the social.tchncs.de instance, I actually get to @BarackObama

When I log in via browser I get redirected to the threads website https://www.threads.net/@barackobama/ but do not see the account on my instance.

Does anyone know why this is, espacially how I end up at @BarackObama? Probably has something to do with I guess?

movodehe,
@movodehe@social.tchncs.de avatar

@morph
Me too. Seems like a really random bug to me and it crossed my mind, that it might be on purpose to load from a replacement instance. But that would also not make any sense to me.
Expected behaviour would be an error message.
@beandev @apps

beandev,
@beandev@social.tchncs.de avatar

@movodehe
Im pretty sure, I faced the bug long time ago. I don't know if I had reported the error. 🙄
@morph @apps

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

saw someone speculating that is an inside job by meta to intentionally fracture the fediverse and, damn, i wish they were paying me for this lmao

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

i guess it says lots about how poor i am that i consider 420k to be an unspeakable sum of money xD

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

who am i kidding, there's probably at least one person on here with that much just sitting in their savings lmao

if you have that much in the bank you should give me $420 lol

consider it a 0.1% vanta tithe

rachaelspooky,
@rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol avatar

if any of you have ever been, like, properly immersed in tech bro culture and seen by the tech bros as "on their side," you would know it doesnt even make sense to them when you tell them real hate exists online. they dont understand it's more than just name-calling, that there are real world consequences to allowing that kind of shit on a platform. they think of it all as "it's just online, ignore them lol" and literally laugh if you mention moderation tools.

i spent four years getting one of the most prestigious compsci degrees you can get.

there was no tech ethics course.

they dont understand the consequences of their actions.

and they never will.

or there is no fediverse. just another cesspool of bigotry.

rachaelspooky,
@rachaelspooky@cyberpunk.lol avatar

hey! this post is doing well! if you want to help out a trans woman who was fired for being trans and can't find work because the tech world has gone to shit, my venmo is $rachaelspooky

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

how long until threads threatens to or actually does start blocking mastodon.social for allowing nudity?

would dot social bend the knee in that scenario and change their policy? probably

https://help.instagram.com/914046486923176

Post photos and videos that are appropriate for a diverse audience. We know that there are times when people might want to share nude images that are artistic or creative in nature, but for a variety of reasons, we don’t allow nudity on Instagram. This includes photos, videos, and some digitally-created content that show sexual intercourse, genitals, and close-ups of fully-nude buttocks. It also includes some photos of female nipples, but photos in the context of breastfeeding, birth giving and after-birth moments, health-related situations (for example, post-mastectomy, breast cancer awareness or gender confirmation surgery) or an act of protest are allowed. Nudity in photos of paintings and sculptures is OK, too. People like to share photos or videos of their children. For safety reasons, there are times when we may remove images that show nude or partially-nude children. Even when this content is shared with good intentions, it could be used by others in unanticipated ways. You can learn more on our Tips for Parents page.
Sexually explicit or violent media must be marked as sensitive or with a content warning This includes content that is particularly provocative even if it may not show specific body parts, as well as dead bodies, bloody injuries, and other gore. Particularly obscene content may be prohibited entirely. Profile pictures and header images may not contain sexually explicit or violent media.

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

you see, this is what i meant about threads suddenly becoming the one to dictate moderation standards on the fediverse

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

never in my life did i imagine we'd have a tumblr-level lewdpocalypse on here and yet...

dannotdaniel,
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a hat tip from for @victorwynne :NoMeta: :NoMeta:

fedi mercury no-meta challenge coin features the avatar of the admin of tooters.org on the front, fades to fedi mercury holding 2 mechanical keyboards lighting and the coin turns to show a no-meta logo and and lettering. made in blender

dannotdaniel,
@dannotdaniel@hellions.cloud avatar

a hat tip from for @oliphant :NoMeta: :NoMeta:

fedi mercury no-meta challenge coin features the avatar of the admin of oliphant.social on the front, fades to fedi mercury holding 2 mechanical keyboards lighting and the coin turns to show a no-meta logo and and lettering. made in blender

dannotdaniel,
@dannotdaniel@hellions.cloud avatar

a hat tip from for @theropologist :NoMeta: :NoMeta:

fedi mercury no-meta challenge coin features the avatar of the admin of beige.party on the front, fades to fedi mercury holding 2 mechanical keyboards lighting and the coin turns to show a no-meta logo and and lettering. made in blender

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar
77nn,
@77nn@goto.77nn.it avatar

I guess that I should create a new filter to discard ”@potus” from my timelines.

I'm so curious to see how many instances changed their mind on the anti-Meta just to able to read @potus posts.

GustavinoBevilacqua,
@GustavinoBevilacqua@mastodon.cisti.org avatar

@77nn

The only potus I'd follow is Jimmy Carter, because:

  1. he is a skilled woodworker

  2. he was the only one politician in the world to be attacked by a rabbit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter_rabbit_incident

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

saw a post earlier linking to https://fedipact.online

it said something like "look at how ridiculously long this list is, this isn't a battle you have to fight alone"

and it legiterally warmed my heart lol

vantablack,
@vantablack@cyberpunk.lol avatar

that's like

THE reason

i made fedipact to begin with lol

quoting https://fedipact.online/why

"the purpose of The Pact is to embolden instances to commit to blocking project92/barcelona/threads. a lotta peeps were already talking bout preemptively blocking it since the march leaks, me included. and the idea popped into my head that maybe if we had like, y'know, a thingy peeps could sign to show their support for it... it might weaken that argument that it's like pointless or whatever, and might make that choice easier to make"

vfrmedia,
@vfrmedia@cyberpunk.lol avatar

@vantablack there's also instances which haven't officially signed the Fedipact but do already block Threads (TBH I think all the main Northern European based instances other than mastodon.social do now block Threads).

Apart from the poor moderation there, it is very likely to flood the server and increase the costs of running it due to extra data traffic and the way its set up is more geared towards helping Meta gather data rather than real interaction, so there is 0 gain for anyone to federate with Threads

x00001,
@x00001@corteximplant.com avatar

If you want to complain to @verge about their blatant transphobia over then I’d recommend you do a user search on your instance because a lot of their editors and writers are on dot social. Real people you can contact that aren’t bots. I won’t post them here in case someone decides I’m inciting something… Which I’m not! I’m just offering information to the masses!

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