Miro_Collas,
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Ireland and Spain expected to reveal plans to formally recognise Palestinian state, reports say | Palestinian territories | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/22/palestinian-state-recognition-ireland-spain-recognise-palestine

Good for them! At least those countries have the balls to stand for what's right, and defy the US. Naturally, Israel will throw a tantrum.

"Since 1988, 139 out of 193 UN member states have recognised Palestinian statehood."


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edgeofeurope,
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@Miro_Collas @palestine Whereas in the Netherlands a proposal has been voted in Parliament to criminalize the slogan 'From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free'.

https://nltimes.nl/2024/05/21/single-mp-majority-asks-cabinet-criminalize-river-sea-statement

Miro_Collas,
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@edgeofeurope sad. :-/
Meantime I read separately that Norway will also be announcing.l

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Mogleg,
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prefec2,
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@edgeofeurope @Miro_Collas @palestine these are two different topics. Spain recognizes a Palestine state based on the UN plan to divide the land implying that there is Israel and a Palestine state. Whereas the slogan implies that Israel gets dissolved and there is one Palestine state.

In addition the Netherlands have now a far right government.

edgeofeurope,
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Thanks, I did not realize that they were two different topics.

What the slogan implies, is not up to you to decide.

The Netherlands, my native country, does not have a new government.

Go be a reply guy on X. Not in here.

prefec2,
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@edgeofeurope @Miro_Collas @palestine you had an election and the right/conservative parties got a majority. And as it looks like, you will have a right wing government.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dutch-nationalist-wilders-says-deal-right-wing-government-is-very-close-2024-05-15/

https://www.dw.com/en/netherlands-right-wing-parties-to-form-government/a-69090522

So technically you have not, but for a vote in parliament, you already have.

Regarding the slogan, it describes the area between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. While there are different opinions on the slogan, on the area they have a consensus. 1/2

prefec2,
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@edgeofeurope @Miro_Collas @palestine depending on the group it is using it, it may have different meanings (for example alsomtotal.contrpl of Israel of the region). However, in context of Hamas it is most likely the one I described.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea

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Heidentweet,
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@prefec2 @edgeofeurope @Miro_Collas @palestine Hamas doesn't use that slogan in its 2017 charter, where it does advocate for a 2-state solution.
There are a lot of Orientalist (racist) projections on Hamas.

RememberUsAlways,
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@Heidentweet
Projection you say?
The are still in .
There is no future for Hamas.
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Miro_Collas,
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@prefec2
The slogan says Palestinians will be free - it makes no mention of state.

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