What animated film or tv show is this?

For me the first thing that comes to mind is Tales from Earthsea. I don’t think it’s excellent or anything and has plenty of problems but people act like it killed their dog. While it has its problems that have been covered extensively, I think it has a beautiful atmosphere and art.

IMO it would have been better received if it wasn’t advertised as an Earthsea adaptation and was just its own thing.

phoenixz,

Rotten tomatoes is rotten itself. Half the professional critics there have been bought and paid for. So many movies have a critics score of 20 and an audience score of 90, or vice versa. It’s just a sad place, don’t go there

maccentric,

What do you prefer instead?

dovahking,

I just watch content creators or reviewers whose taste matches with mine and check their recommendations first. Otherwise check 2 or 3 positive and negative reviews in imdb, rt, Google. You can roughly tell who are shills, trolls or giving valid criticisms.

phoenixz,

I guess IMDb is still reasonably good, though I might be mistaken

Chadus_Maximus,

Reddit LMAO

krzschlss,
@krzschlss@lemmy.world avatar

Why do you need anyone or any site telling you what you like and what not? Just watch the movies. Be your own judge and executioner.

I have a letterboxed acc, just for tracking purposes. Most reviews on letterboxd are reddit style “funny” “jokes”, so no point in reading those either. Just go by genre, director, etc. and have fun. I do sometimes check the lists on there tho.

phoenixz,

Because there is too much shit out there to waste your time on it.

krzschlss,
@krzschlss@lemmy.world avatar

I might have worded it clumsily… I don’t think anyone should watch ALL movies or not to look up stuff.

I think it’s important to learn to choose your media without outside help and/or manipulation (ads, paid reviews etc.). I do look for reviews when it comes to video games, since I don’t know many people IRL who play much.

maccentric,

I just don’t have time to watch them all, I’d like to whittle that list down a little bit before diving in

krzschlss,
@krzschlss@lemmy.world avatar

No one has the time to watch all movies.

You are afraid to waste time on a movie you might find bad? How will you know if a movie is good if you never seen a bad movie?

It’s perfectly OK to watch random movies. Be adventurous, it’s art after all. If you only watch popular movies you’ll never find your niche, something that fulfills your art/entertainment needs.

Leg,

I agree with this sentiment. I’ll watch literally any movie that catches my eye. If it’s good, I’m happy. If it’s bad, my taste develops and I’m happy. If it’s really bad, I’m having a uniquely great time shitting on an awful movie. The experience is nothing but wins in my book.

fuck_u_spez_in_particular,

It’s just that time is precious, and other activities can take precedence for some. So after having wasted enough time on bad movies or series, and with this huge amount of movies some kind of prefilter makes sense (for me e.g. a rather high imdb score which I’m often agreeing with)

maccentric,

I’ve seen plenty of bad movies, I’m just old and would rather not waste my remaining time on any more of them. Right now my routine is to see what’s available on the services I have, then read reviews on IMDb before watching anything. I tend not to watch popular movies which is why I look them up to get an idea if it’s something I think I’d like.

h3mlocke,

🙏

Kedly,

This was Sucker Punch for me

PrimeMinisterKeyes,

From the top of my head:
Time Trap
Dalíland
The American

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

I still can’t tell if Sucker Punch is an ingenious retelling of One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest or an excuse to film scantily clad women while pretending you have something serious to say, but it’s certainly fun to watch.

Kedly,

Tbh, from all the shit Snyder has released since. It’s mostly just spectacle for spectacles sake, but I had fun watching it, and the story inside a story inside a story aspect was fun

Varyag,
@Varyag@lemm.ee avatar

I love that movie. =\

WalrusDragonOnABike,

The live-action “adaptation” of Death Note wasn’t terrible. Calling it an adaptation is a bit generous (more like a separate story in a similar universe) and it nowhere near lives up the source material. But it was alright - seems mostly just hated because of people’s expectations of what it claimed to be an adaptation. In general, media that differs significantly from the source material (even if the source material didn’t exist at the time, like with Fullmetal Alchemist) gets more hate than it deserves.

Black Bullet seems to have some really negative opinions, but I’m a fan of that genre of shows like Tokyo Ghoul where main characters are some sort of social pariah because of non-human features (guess I find them relatable).

Non-animated, but “In Time” 2011 was a movie I enjoyed quite a bit, but found out later that people generally have a slightly negative view of it I think.

FunkyMonk,

Anything fourth wave Marvel, people were done after infinity wars and just shit on anything since because it's too much nerddom on their systems. I still loved she-hulk but people didn't.

scops,

Secret Invasion had me close to hanging up my MCU fan hat. The Marvels is the first movie I didn’t catch in the theater, but then I watched it on streaming and it really reminded me why I love the franchise so much. It’s got its pacing issues and the first 30 minutes are clearly the swiss cheese left after some heavy revisions, but it’s just so fucking fun, and Iman Vellani is goddamn delightful.

X-Men '97 manages to hit all the good nostalgia notes from the old TV series while getting me excited for what comes next, and I’m going back and re-watching Agents of SHIELD now. I thought I remembered Season 1 being kinda humdrum before the Hydra twist, but it’s fun seeing all of Ward’s plot beats knowing what is coming.

exocrinous,

She Hulk is great! What did you think of Moon Knight? I’m glad the MCU has not one but two confirmed plural superheroes!

WldFyre,

What’s a plural superhero?

exocrinous,

A superhero for whom there’s more than one person in their head. Bruce Banner and the Hulk are a plural system, and so are Steven Grant, Marc Spector, and Jake Lockley. Although Banner and Hulk have integrated into a single personality by the time of Endgame. In She Hulk, Bruce is actually really surprised that Jen isn’t plural. I guess in the MCU he hasn’t realised that his plurality is caused by being beaten by his father like in the comics. He thinks his plurality is caused by gamma radiation up until Jen turns into a hulk but isn’t plural.

WldFyre,

Gotcha thanks for the explanation!

exocrinous,

Moon Knight’s arc dealing with a fictive alter is great, but I’d be even happier with the MCU’s handling of plurality if there were an endogenic superhero. An endogenic system is one that wasn’t formed by trauma. A lot of people in the plural community, called sysmedicalists, think plurality can only be a mental disorder. I’d like it if the MCU was brave enough to include a counterexample to this belief.

VindictiveJudge,
@VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world avatar

She-Hulk was fun for me, but not amazing or anything. Same with Hawkeye. Ms Marvel was just too Gen Z for my millennial ass. Loki was amazing and I’m interested in where Moon Knight is going. Wandavision managed to have almost no rewatch value and Mulitverse of Madness was all over the place. Overall, I feel like the current wave just lacks direction. It’s theoretically building to Kang as the new villain, but it doesn’t really feel like it’s actually going anywhere and they’re still introducing new lead characters, so there hasn’t been much teaming up or plot convergence. There’s been a lot of stuff with a lot of new and returning characters, but it doesn’t feel like we’re anywhere close to a new Avengers movie.

Bruhh,

The number of times I’ve watched a highly rated movie only to find it’s not good. cough oppenheimer cough

mondoman712,

I really enjoyed Oppenheimer and I’d say it’s highly rated because it is good and lots of people enjoyed it, however nothing can please everyone and there’s nothing wrong with that. You not enjoying the popular thing doesn’t make it bad.

Bruhh,

Nah, if I don’t like it then it isn’t good. /s

Loved RDJ in it though

affiliate,

watching oppenheimer felt like watching a 3 hour compilation of trailers for oppenheimer. everything was so dramatic, there was no downtime, and they always had some kind of music playing. it felt like every scene wasn’t allowed to last more than 5 minutes

DarylDutch,

Agree with you on that. Many of the “oscar bait” movies are not that great for just watching. For instance, “the Revenant” was not a great picture in my opinion.

What probably elevates them is watching for all the minutiae in the acting and really focussing on the actors instead of the greater picture. However, I think great moments have to be earned through screemwriting. A great example is “the Wire”. Lives caught short, loves truly lost, and a realisation you are just part of a greater machine. These are all earned moments of pure emotion that films often do not get because of their tight focus. I do not mean to encourage film makers to lengthen their movies, please for the love of god, your movies are lengthy enough.

dessalines,

Reviews after the 2010s or so get increasingly more untrustworthy, because studios realized that box office returns rely on these ratings now. So now paid reviews and bot ratings become much more important for a newly released movie.

Another prime example: the newer avatar has a higher rating than the first.

Legend,

That’s why i like to depend on reddit for reviews because you can see different opinions of people and see how many agree with them , look at the down votes which bots and shills do tend to get etc. granted it may not be dependable soon the way bots are growing and i’m hoping lemmy will be big enough by then as its a lot more hard for bots to get in here and continue to exist than on reddit due to the filling an application and better moderation etc.

Assman, (edited )
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

Kung Pow is a cinematic triumph

Edit: there’s an animated cow so it counts

Redecco,

Obligatory Weeeeoooweeeeoooweeee

madnotangry,

I’m bleeding, making me the victor.

itsnicodegallo,

My nipples look like milk duds.

ggppjj,

Face to foot style, how’d you like it?

itsnicodegallo,

squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak

Neato,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

It may have a critical rating of 13% but it’s audience rating is 69%.

something_random_tho,

Nice.

Blackmist,

Yeah, but the audience is allowed to be high while watching.

ohlaph,

Let me know if you see s RadioShack.

KittyCat,

The real masterpiece is the movie that all of the footage is from, “Master of the Flying Guillotine”

Its far more entertaining and shockingly influential.

MrBusiness,

Master of the Flying Guillotine is one of my all time favorites along with the One Armed Boxer.

But Kung Pow used Savage Killers, also known as Tiger& Crane Fists

something_random_tho,

Tiger. Tiger, tiger. Bird. Birdy, birdy.

GrayBackgroundMusic,

“THAT’S A LOTTA NUTS!”

ColeSloth,

I remember watching it in theaters. I laughed my ass off the first 30 minutes or so and my face hurt from it. Then the shtick started to get old.

njm1314,

Na na na na na neo, na na na na na na na sporin.

nothingcorporate,

Rat Race is one of the funniest movies of all time, I didn’t care what the ratings say.

nightofmichelinstars,

Sometimes the reasons critics think movies are bad are actually features, not bugs.

frezik,

That’s one of those movies that’s better than it has any right to be. Remake “It’s a mad mad mad mad world”, and now we have Smashmouth? Nah.

Same with “Hot Tub Time Machine”. Should be awful, is actually good.

MrBusiness,
renrenPDX,

Oooh cock doggies!

Tarquinn2049,

Oh wow, it got bad ratings? 100% agree with you. Love that movie.

anakin78z,
@anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

This was The Emoji Movie for my kids. I refused to watch it because of obvious reasons, but they insisted and totally liked it. I finally gave it a watch and… It was totally fine. Pleasant at times, even.

Sterile_Technique,
@Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world avatar

The Aladdin live action remake was shat on mercilessly by the internet, but I thought it was a fun, true to the spirit of the original while introducing a few new ideas to keep it interesting, and (imo very respectfully) stayed out of Rob William’s lane by not trying to recreate his genie. And Will Smith did a great job with his version.

/shrug

exocrinous,

I agree, but the way they handled Jasmine was pretty sloppy. She had a whole song about not being silenced, which all happened inside her head and she proceeded to have no further impact on the plot.

IdiosyncraticIdiot,

I feel this same way about most the Disney live action remakes. I thought they were enjoyable blasts from the past (for me) but the internet and critics absolutely hated them which was puzzling. I guess I also have felt the same way about remakes where the actor is a different race than the original lore… Who cares?

“Oh noes, Snow White is no longer a ‘damsel in distress’ being kissed by a random dude while she is… checks notes… Unconscious??? AND the actress is Hispanic??? This ruins my life” - literally conservatives so much so that Disney cancelled it.

Some people’s kids smhmh

Hobthrob,

I didn’t really follow the online conversations around the movie, but I did watch it and it’s not entirely that long ago since I watched the animated movie either. If I was to try to judge the movie without the context of the orighinal, I’d say it was fine, nothing about it was terrible but I also didn’t find anything about it particularly good or memorable. I think Will Smith did a fine job and I don’t think he’d be anywhere near the top of the list of what I would criticise about the movie in that case.

But I do think context matters, and in context I think it comes out looking pretty poor. Genie as written for the live action movie pales in comparison to the animated one. In terms of craft I think the live action one feels like a soulless board-room directed husk, and I really miss the feeling of a creative voice in the whole thing.

If you’re going to remake something, I it should be better, or enough of a reinterpretation to be considered distinctly different.

I am glad others liked it, but if I someone asked me which they should watch I would tell them the original animated movie because I think it is a better piece of entertainment, and that makes the modern one feel like an absolute waste of time, money, skills and effort that could have been spent so much better.

anakin78z,
@anakin78z@lemmy.world avatar

We LOVED this film, and even convinced our local cinema to have a sing along one night.

The first time we watched it we had to leave the cinema early due to a tornado warning. But we were so pleasantly surprised by what we saw (expected trash after those awful trailers) that we went again. And then again.

Black_Gulaman,
@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

My general personal rule is “If I’m entertained then it’s good” hmrm I don’t care what anybody says.

lud,

Obviously nothing wrong with that but I personally think it’s important to distinguish between “It’s good because it’s a bunch of moving pixels and it’s not terrible, and I’m lazy and have nothing else to do” and “it’s so good I thought about it for weeks after watching it”

I would call the first example mediocre at best even if I technically enjoyed watching it that time.

Black_Gulaman,
@Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

well in both cases, it affected me positively right?

i want a smart thinking movie, after finishing it i still think of it days or weeks after. I got what I want.

i’m bored,i want a dumb fun flick, after watching it, gosh time flew by and i was surprised i didn’t notice the time fly by. also i was entertained. I got what i want.

i want something to make me laugh, i watch a move and laughed. i got what i want.

all of these are good to me, i dont care if its dumb or not an artsy fartsy movie, i dont care if it’s a masterpiece. the most important thing is i got what i want. and that to me is good.

kratoz29,

This is how I feel about lots of Adam Sandler films.

Melatonin,

Horror movies is a completely different scale. Subtract 2 for horror, just because. Witch sounds like a good horror title.

Subtract 2 for Horror

dumbass,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

The long awaited sequel to Dial M for Murder.

ILikeBoobies,
AngryCommieKender,

Which, unfortunately, wasn’t the prequel to V for Vendetta

Underwaterbob,

Not animated, but trust me, if you’d actually watched Manos: The Hands of Fate, you would not have enjoyed it in any capacity.

pirating,

Manos initially took me a few times to get through (even with MST3K), but now when I randomly run across it on the dumb industries twitch stream or the MST3K YouTube/twitch streams I get a little excited. It really doesn’t make my “skin crawl” like it used to, but it’s still terrible.

I’ve seen it with dumb industries, rifftrax, and MST3K.

Underwaterbob,

I can’t imagine watching it more than once. I’ve just been trying to forget about it for the last fifteen years.

pirating,

The master would not approve lol

PlantPowerPhysicist,

Even in the MST3k episode, it was an ordeal.

Underwaterbob,

It is truly amazing how they managed to make an hour-and-ten-minutes feel like three hours. I (barely) finished watching it, and couldn’t believe how little time had actually passed.

Sverik,

As it happens, I just discovered this nice chap: youtube.com/“Because liking things is more fun than not liking things.”

GraniteM,

Titan AE is at 61% on RT, but I fucking love it.

njm1314,

Aw man, I rewatched that for the first time in a long time a while ago and it did not hold up nearly as well as I was hoping. I was absolutely crushed.

blackstampede,

Really? That’s a classic.

HopingForBetter,

Yep. That was such a good movie. I think that was my point of transition from happy all the time kids movies to serious stuff. I need to watch it again.

Entertainmeonly,

For me, Titan AE was the first Mandela effect. I clearly remember teaser trailers years before its release with a totally different art style. It looked like really good anime. Then once it dropped it was this weird amalgamation of Disney’s Pocahontas and Fox The Simpsons. Still feels like a fever dream.

njm1314,

That’s not the mandala effect of Titan AE. The Mandela effect from that movie is that we all remember that Creed song being in the film but it wasn’t.

OuterRem,

As I understand it, a couple hundred staff were laid off at the beginning of its final year of production. So a lot of the movie got outsourced instead of made by the people who started the film and did the trailers. Also, more than half the budget was spent before it went into full production. This may partially account for that bizarre discrepancy we had as kids looking at the trailer then seeing the full film.

SlothMama,

Love The Last Airbender movie and people basically think I’m trolling when I share that. I’ve watched it multiple times, I love it, I like it better than the Netflix series even. One of my all time favorite movies.

Lairo,

Even taking the premise of this thread, I still think you’re trolling. I just can’t comprehend this point of view

Blackmist,

My theory is that M Night Shyamalan was asked to make all three Avatar movies so he could make Split, but made it bad on purpose so he wouldn’t have to make the other two.

My evidence is him using a quarry as a prison for the earthbenders.

exocrinous,

Never seen the movie but that’s hilarious. I’m glad the movie exists, solely because I get to laugh at the video of the earthbenders moving a rock.

SlothMama,

It’s so irritating how people try to tell me my opinion on this movie is wrong. Yes, I’m absolutely completely serious, and I know other people that enjoy it too.

Try to spend time off the Internet hivemind and realize that most people’s opinions are themselves actually viral.

I also unironically love Forspoken and count it among the best games I’ve ever played. I think it’s not even close to as bad as people claim and the opinion that it’s bad it’s viral and mited in social momentum.

I form my own, independent ideas on things I like and typically disregard the opinions of others. I am not trolling, I love the movie, it’s one of my favorites.

How dare someone vote me down for expressing my opinions.

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