Why is it frowned upon here to 'steal' content from reddit?
If anything, shouldn’t it be encouraged, and even automated? I’m including even the ‘old’ stuff from reddit here. Reddit shouldn’t be the absolute owner of the content submitted by users. When I migrated here, it wasn’t because of me being against reddit users, but being against reddit the company. Copying the content here actually hurts the company in sense that they don’t get to then gatekeep the crowdsourced content.
I think the strength of a community shouldn’t primarily be built upon content another separate community or platform produces.
Now there are givens, like major news and art which “transcends” a singular platform. But repeatedly just lifting content from somewhere else (aside from if you are the creator yourself obviously and wanting to share to different platforms) and shipping it over here isn’t a good look when Lemmy wishes to be a separate aggregator from Reddit.
Automatically copying content from reddit is killing user interaction. I don’t want to see thousands of shitty posts with zero comments and where OP isn’t even a human that could react so I don’t even have any intention of wringing comments
I have no problems with manually doing it though. Heck I myself do it. The difference is that I only repost what I seam to be worthy a repost.
Yeah there’s something about the ratio of posts to active users. If it gets too high, there’s just a sea of posts with comments too diluted. A lot of subs just don’t have the users to support the same level of posts that equivalent reddit subs have.
Yeah, stuff like crossposting is one thing. People do it across communities and subreddits, so may as well post stuff on both sites so you can get inputs from both userbases.
But the automatic copying stuff is too much. I blocked the lemmit bot almost as soon as it showed up because it became almost impossible to not see content that was being copied over by it.
It’s also important to remember too that while the vast majority of Lemmy users by far are Reddit migrants, just because you’ve seen something before doesn’t mean someone else has. Any bit of content can make someone part of the lucky 10000:
Because automated reposts just drown out all the posts that people are actually participating in. Yes you could scrape reddit and repost all the content here but lemmy doesn’t have the userbase of reddit so your feed would just be full of a bunch of dead bot made posts.
But if a person deliberately reposts something from reddit in a Lemmy community where it fits and adds to the community then that’s perfectly fine.
Reddit shouldn’t be the absolute owner of the content submitted by users.
And neither should you, nor anyone else here running a reddit scraper bot.
If users want to (re-)post their content here as well, awesome, but automatically scraping reddit to repost other people’s content (which they then don’t know about, and can’t really interact with or control like it’s their own content.) is just spam imo.
Create and post your own original content while letting others worry about their own content. People can make their own decisions, why should you have the right to override that?
There are a ton of people that decry reposts of any sort. I think the fact it comes from reddit given them more ammo in the sense that it came from reddit so it is even more poisonous to their pure and only new/original content online existence. If they have seen, so have you after all.
And on reddit, those folks were rampant. Like a circle jerk of gatekeepers reaching over to help one another out.
Fuck Reddit. It’s shit, full of crap memes, terrible conversation and fucking wierdos. You’ll get jumped for anything you say. Leave Reddit on Reddit. What’s the point of this becoming an extension.
I mean, I miss being able to talk about the show I listen to, with fans of the show. There are no Bonfire listeners here and I can promise you there probably won’t be any other than me. Their fanbase isn’t nerds, its normies. They didn’t understand the API stuff that happened on reddit. They’re just there cause that’s the easiest place to talk about the show.
on Lemmy, its a great atmosphere and I don’t miss the reddit behavior… but there are less communities here for my hobbies and interests.
Fair point. Whenever I scroll through it , all I see is trans this and USA that, and crappy memes made by 12 year olds that just aren’t funny. There’s a few communities I used to check occasionally but since they all went private, I can t read them since I never had an account.
all I see is trans this and USA that, and crappy memes made by 12 year olds that just aren’t funny.
Oof yeah. I do not miss talking to someone on reddit only to realize it’s some fucking 14 year old kid and he’s trolling on reddit in the middle of class.
Some communities are dead or non-existing on lemmy while they’re vibrant on reddit. Repost can only bring life to lemmy. I really don’t understand the mindset of those people who don’t want content or people in their community.
This is my take on it, at least just to get the community to grow, eventually the community will reach a point where it’ll start to function on its own without having to seed posts from Reddit.
Having a bunch of posts taken from another site with no real interaction with OP or anyone else isn’t driving traffic here, it’s boring the people who come here for discussion. The actual user posts will get drowned out by the huge number of reddit scraped posts. If something is interesting and fits a community here, post it. But scraping reddit to lemmy isn’t really helping as much as it might seem.
Not automated, but if you see something there that brings something on the table, by all means post it here. There’s nothing you can really steal from Reddit, and even if there was, go ahead and make it impossible to catch you. Companies like that don’t deserve any considerations from regular guys like us.
The source got rid of 3rd party apps, which is why I’m here. So no, I don’t go right to that source anymore because their official app is flaming garbage. I appreciate their content however, so I’m grateful for anyone that brings it here so I can scroll through it on my phone using Sync still.
Reddit will still have higher search hits and Lemmy is outmatched. Dumping content from Reddit just makes this no better than a mirror. It stops real and unique content from hitting the top and this place won’t attract new users if they can just use Reddit which at this point has the content directly and is more reliable.
I’ve seen a number of communities that are otherwise dead without Reddit reposts, and being the most subscribed community for a given topic with the latest post being months ago is definitely not going to attract new users.
It’s either don’t repost, and new users won’t join because of dead community, or repost and have some activity, and maybe new users will join. With dead communities, new users won’t magically join, and new content won’t magically get created.
One such example was the bcpcsalescanada community, which was revived due to reposts.
This is unfortunately part of migrating. Not all communities can just move over. Larger ones will develop and with that side communities will start with a large enough user base. Reposting in this case still doesn’t do anything other than give you the exact same content as Reddit just now it’s without an interactive user base.
I’m not sure I agree… Or more precisely, it depends. !bapcsalescanada is an example of a community where there is value in reposting content from Reddit over, where the value is getting the coverage of deals. On Reddit, a small majority of users actively seek and share deals. If those users don’t move to Lemmy, that community is dead, period. No amount of enticement will introduce new content.
The secondary value now is that, previously, many users had to go to Reddit for that content, because that content isn’t available on Lemmy. Reposting isn’t just to kick-start user engagement, but is also a retention tool. Users don’t need to go to Reddit to fetch that info anymore. I know that was the case for me.
I understand the consequence of Lemmy being a mirror of Reddit. And yes, over reposting is detrimental. This is where reposts need to be strategically applied where it makes sense.
Ideally you don’t want a blood transfusion. But in specific circumstances, a blood transfusion kick-starts the healing/growth process.
I came here because my favorite app, Sync for Reddit, died like the other 3rd party apps. I still use reddit some because the groups I was a part of there don’t really exist here, or not with much volume anyway. Ketorecipes for instance… if I want to see new recipes frequently, I gotta go to reddit, but I wouldn’t if their content was being x-posted. If I post a recipe it’ll be here but in a recipes forum, like many other subject types, you’re more commonly a reader than a content maker. I have no doubt the small community here will grow eventually but for now it’s limited by the low subscriber/contributer count.
Can Lemmy be more/different than reddit? Sure. Can Lemmy be similar to, a replacement for and yet better than reddit? Absolutely.
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