w7voa,
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The world's top #chess federation rules that #transgender women cannot compete in its official events for females until an assessment of gender change is made by its officials. https://doc.fide.com/docs/DOC/2FC2023/CM2_2023_45.pdf

VE2UWY,
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@w7voa

Some sort of genital inspection?

Runyan50,
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@w7voa Why on earth would a chess tournament have gender divisions?

bluGill,
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@Runyan50

@w7voa to encourage girls to play. This should be obvious, but everyone is so worried about finding justification for their bias they can't admit the obvious.

sambeau,

@w7voa this from the sport where a pawn can transition into a queen

breiter,
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@w7voa implication is the chess federation thinks men are smarter than women?

genecowan,
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@w7voa @lisamelton Every single bogus argument against trans participation in any competition just got unmasked as spurious and ridiculous bigotry.

eileensho,
msglincoln,
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@w7voa Not to pile on, but why the hell are there gender divisions in chess?

binaryequation,
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@w7voa Gender partitioning for board games is stupid.

RedGreenLibre,
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@w7voa Wow. Never really thought about Chess in terms of sexual equality. I came across this though, after seeing your post. https://new.uschess.org/womens Even though we think of the game as an elevated, cerebral activity, it still bumps up against & .
I can see why women & girls might want to have their own spaces.
Even so, last place I'd anticipated trans debate raising its head.

Lazarou,
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@w7voa implying that one of the genders is mentally more powerful that other, which is some throwback misogynistic shit (but then that's transphobia always leads to)

MysticaRose,

@w7voa

Why🙄
So stupid.

PizzaDemon,
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@w7voa to which the rest of the world reacts, "Why are there gender divisions in chess?"

BoloBilly,

@w7voa Wait--there are separate chess events for men and women? WTF has gender got to do with playing chess?

north_easton,
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@w7voa Explicitly trans women, not trans men.

billclawson,
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@w7voa why are there “official events for females”? That makes no sense.

trainingmontage,
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@w7voa
Why the hell are chess competitions separated by gender?

mthx,
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@w7voa this is the stupidest thing I’ve read all day. Why even if there a gender division in a strictly intellectual game?

I don’t know much about professional chess but is there some other organization that’s a bit less… stupid… that chess players can be a part of?

n_m_c,

@w7voa I don't see any reason why chess has different categories for males and females.

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@n_m_c @w7voa

As far as I understand, it doesn't really. There's an open category, in which everyone can compete, including trans people and women. Then there's a women's category, which is more like a "no men" category, which, as I understand, is intended to give women their own space to compete.

But women can do well in the open tournaments, Judit Polgár being the women's GOAT who never competed in the women's category and peaked at top 8 in the world (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judit_Polg%C3%A1r).

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maegul,
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@n_m_c @w7voa

None of which is to say that there isn't sexism, which of course there has been and surely still is. The main value of the women's category, if there is any, is, I'd bet, to allow female chess players to play without the sexist bullshit of male players.

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maegul,
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@n_m_c @w7voa

Other than that, the relative weakness of female chess players is obviously cultural. Polgar and her upbringing was basically an experiment to prove this.

Beyond that, if you look at the top female chess players (https://ratings.fide.com/top_lists.phtml?list=women), I count 2 from the west in the top 20 (while china,india,eastern eu dominate), compared to the open rankings (all men) (https://ratings.fide.com/top_lists.phtml?list=open) which is more internationally spread out. That's gotta be cultural, with the west not looking good

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