Coreidan,

Hopefully the trend continues after re-election and this isn’t just a stunt to secure votes.

silence7,
nothingcorporate,

His administration has overseen the highest domestic oil production of all time, and they’ve bragged about that… So it is a bit sus

Thevenin,

I will say this about Biden: the dude’s downright sneaky. It seems to be his administration’s main strategy to publicly walk back a major agenda point, let right-wingers celebrate, and then after the media hype (and potential for right-wing backlash) dies out, quietly split it up into smaller programs that get pushed further than the original agenda ever could.

So yeah, it seems on-brand that the Biden administration would push for LNG exports after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, and then go back later and curtail them instead.

ericjmorey,

Thank you for this comment

BurningRiver,

This should be pinned at the top of every thread mentioning Biden until the second week of November.

doingless,

Why do I feel like every time politicians do the right thing, it’s the home budgets of regular people who pay for it?

silence7,

This is about blocking export terminals. Building them raises domestic prices. So it has a financial benefit for Americans who use gas for heat and has a climate benefit.

mods_are_assholes,

Because the wealthy have made everything in existence a ratchet to channel wealth up to them and them alone.

ToastedPlanet, (edited )

Regular people are paying for it when a hurricane destroys their city. Think of switching to clean energy as an investment, if having a planet to live on doesn’t do it for you. edit: typo

doingless,

Heat pumps don’t really work in extreme cold. My office has only electric heat and it runs constantly when it’s really cold, never getting up to a comfortable temp. My home stays warm with gas heat and the furnace runs far less.

Leviathan,

So in Montreal everything runs off of electric heat and it gets super cold out and it’s pretty warm indoors with the heating running on super low. Maybe you guys just don’t know how to use electric heating properly.

doingless,

Your comment made me curious because I know I have read about heat pumps not operating well in cold temperatures. So I looked it up a little, apparently there are cold climate heat pumps and they aren’t installed in most places in the US. Where I live, heat pumps work okay a lot of the year, but we do get cold snaps where they just can’t keep up. Apparently you actually have a better heat pump it would seem.

Bronzie,

Yupp, they work fine in Norway and it gets cold enough here.
Had spells of -30 °C this winter.

You’d be hard pressed finding a any home here heated with gas. Its all electric or wood fired.

Leviathan,

Funnily enough, most of our heating is done using baseboard heaters, or resistance heating. Newer constructions have heat pump/air conditioning combos but I don’t know exactly how widespread they are, my parents have one and it’s definitely more efficient than the baseboard heaters, but not by a huge margin.

I don’t know if you know his channel, but Technology Connections did a couple of videos on heat pumps that were pretty eye opening, I imagine as much for Americans who have been hit hard by gas and oil lobbying, as for me as a Canadian who hasn’t ever really seen anything other than electric heating.

bassad,

Yeah older heat pumps can’t stand >5°C temps (at least my 20yo one), newer ones seems to be way better even in cold temp.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

No wonder they all fucking hate him.

But I guess “both sides” are the same and represent the “status quo”, right?

thecrotch,

Yeah let’s all continue to pretend that being better than the Republicans is good enough that is how we will see meaningful change

silence7,

I don’t expect the work of getting off fossil fuels to be completed in the term of any one President; it’s a multi-decade project. He’s been doing a lot more than ‘better than the Republicans’ though.

ira,

A great start! We’re going to need to see way more of this to reverse the massive increase of natural gas production since Feb 2021 (2.6 trillion cubic ft / month then vs 3.5 trillion now, a 34% increase in less than 3 years and an all-time high for the US)

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Get over yourself, we’ll have global war followed by a thousand years of anarchy before this fucking travesty is over.

aniki,

Anarchy would be an improvement over this shitscape.

MrMakabar,

Yes, but a lot of it goes to the EU and they lost Russias supply. Similar story with oil. There are massive OPEC+ cuts and the US fills the void.

_haha_oh_wow_,
@_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works avatar

“…bUt wE hAvE tO mEeT LiTeRaL NaZiS hAlFwAy!”

-“moderates” probably

candyman337,

That’s because it’s electrion year lmao

cloudless,
@cloudless@feddit.uk avatar

Isn’t that the whole purpose of having elections? To make leaders do the right thing.

4am,

I mean I also understand the sentiment that the right thing should be done regardless, but if that’s what it takes then that’s what it takes

silence7,
candyman337, (edited )

I am aware, but the reason we’re seeing sensationalist articles right now is because it’s election year, and the reason certain things were held off until now is because he wanted to look good during an election year

BassTurd,

If it is effective I personally don’t care what the motive is. Whether it’s effective remains to be seen.

Emma_Gold_Man,

The argument may be that once the election is over these sorts of policies will get rolled back again, killing the effectiveness.

MonsiuerPatEBrown,

at least until after the election

givesomefucks,

After the election it’ll still be record level drilling, just like there is now.

The record will just be higher

Psychodelic,

You say that like most Americans wouldn’t support doing literally anything that would lower gas prices. The problem is trying to make everyone happy.

I mean, most people I know bring up gas prices before they bring up climate change, if at all. I try to remind these people that while the president/Congress can take actions to increase drilling there are many of us in the US that would prefer they didn’t.

I usually then make it clear how obviously easy it is for me to say that as someone that works from home and isn’t as impacted by gas prices; context is always important.

Empricorn,

Yes, yes, we know… All politicians are corrupt and bad, both sides are the same, don’t vote, everything sucks, nothing matters, etc.

Or you could have just the tiniest bit of hope and diligence to improve the world…

SinAdjetivos,

Ah yes, don’t be realistic the solution is “thoughts and prayers”.

Or you could get mad about it and go do something to improve the world…

Empricorn,

Uh, what? Where did I say to use hopes and prayers? And I do improve the world, regularly. It’s small ways, but that’s kind of the point: it all adds up…

ThirdWorldOrder,

People just have to get out there and vote these asshats out. Apathy is why these losers get voted in in the first place.

Empricorn,

THANK you. We need election reform, but at least it’s not like Russia, North Korea, etc here…

ThirdWorldOrder,

You’re on a Netherlands based instance but you live in the USA? My family is Dutch.

Empricorn,

Yep.

My family is Dutch.

Jealous!

ThirdWorldOrder,

Don’t be. I have one of those last names with “van” in it so it always causes problems everywhere because of the space!

Emma_Gold_Man,

Apathy is absolutely the problem, but “just” getting out there and voting means replacing them with whatever new asshats the existing donor class selects for you. Actual change is going to require voting, and then getting back out there the next day (and every day thereafter) to hold their feet to the fire through direct action, strikes, organizing, protests, call campaigns, and every other tool at our disposal. Pretending otherwise is almost as much of a disservice as the "voting changes nothing argument.

That said, there is a way of not voting that DOES make a difference. Politicians DO pay attention to the differences between votes for various party members on the same ballot. So if you really can’t stomach voting for someone, voting for down (or up) ballot races and leaving that one office blank tells them their policies are unpopular with voting members of “their own” party - and that WILL scare them in a way that low turnout won’t.

interolivary,
@interolivary@beehaw.org avatar

The idea that all politicians are corrupt and conniving bastards is mainly a right-wing fiction. They assume everybody acts exactly like they themselves do

Empricorn,

That, and if you’re not on their side, they want you to be screwed out of your vote and rights, or apathetic because you feel it is all hopeless.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

“It’s not perfect, therefore it’s useless, and because it is, I’m going to vote for the worse alternative. Don’t make me explain my reasoning further.”

lntl,

JOE! JOE! JOE!

idunnololz,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

How do you like me? How do you like me? ~~

Empricorn,

Mo’! Mo’! Mo’!

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

I think I gonna bomb a town, get down!

BlackPenguins,

Joe Bi the Science Guy

eltimablo,

Natural gas is produced as a byproduct of gasoline production. He hasn't done shit besides screw us out of access to a cleaner energy source we're already producing.

silence7,

You can re-inject it into the reservoir instead of burning it and dumping the resulting CO2 into the atmosphere. He’s done a good thing here, especially light of the incredible death toll from the by-products of combustion.

the_post_of_tom_joad,

Yeah i criticize Biden all the time and while I’ll always say “he could go further” i can’t find enough to hate here. It actually looks kind of good. Ill have to dig deeper if i want to hate this move.

squiblet,
squiblet avatar

Natural gas is commonly produced by fracking. And also, this is about export terminals.

ares35,
ares35 avatar

these are export terminals.. which are used by the industry to sell the product for more profit than they can get selling it domestically. it also eliminates the ocean-crossing trips made by those pollution-spouting tankers to deliver the product overseas.

aew360,

This will drive down domestic energy prices as well. So naturally, Fox News cannot cover this

034521231,

I dont think its clear what it would do. It might decrease the amount exported, but it also might decrease the exploration and infrastructure to get the natural gas because it is reduction potential customers.

ares35,
ares35 avatar

there is no shortage of domestic customers. it's all chasing profits.

034521231,

Thats not how it works, the lower the price the more uses for it there is. It gets complicated.

sonori,
@sonori@beehaw.org avatar

Na, they’ll cover it twenty four seven as an example of the radical left driving up energy prices for hardworking americans, full well knowing that anyone who would do more then take everything they say at face value has long since left.

aew360,

Shit, you’re right. I was thinking of 2014 Fox News, not 2024 Fox News

Jondar,

Natural gas comes out of the ground naturally, and isn’t necessarily a by-product of gasoline refinement. I can’t speak from experience on the refinery side of things, but I can speak from experience on the upstream production side of things. The natural gas we use for power generation, and heat at the facility I work at essentially comes straight out of the ground with minimal processing. Any excess is put back in the ground. That’s specific to where I work. I imagine other places, the gas is separated out like we do and sent to “the market.”

eltimablo,

Huh, TIL you can put it back in the ground. I was under the impression it had to be burned off.

Jondar,

Yep! There are two types of oil wells, producers and injectors. Producers produce raw production fluids and gas. Those production fluids/gases need to go through a 3-phase separate vessel to separate the oil, water, and gas. The water and gas is sent back into the ground with the injection wells. The reason for this is to maintain the pressure of the reservoir underground, and to dispose of the fluids/gases.

Some amount of gas is flared (burned) off from the separation facility, and also from refineries. The purpose of the flare is for process safety. If there’s an overpressure event, or an equipment shutdown, all the gas production from the field needs to go somewhere while the production wells are shutdown. For that time period, any gas is burned off to prevent a catastrophic failure in the facility.

The amount of gas being flared is monitored and regulated, and any flare event is recorded and reported to the appropriate agencies, generally the EPA, and Relevant state agencies.

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