abcdw,
@abcdw@fosstodon.org avatar

gandi changed their free mail service (advertised as a free addition to your domain) to paid one and it cost 4EUR/month per mailbox, there is also a yearly option, which cost 48EUR/year 😄

The service isn't bad, but I wouldn't say it's great in some way either.

Looking for place to migrate. migadu.com, mailbox.org or something else:
https://european-alternatives.eu/category/email-providers

My notes on the topic:
https://github.com/abcdw/notes/blob/446cb2a98b28d71d9f7c9418a9da6fb0e51d405d/notes/20230313143331-mail_providers.org#L6

strk,

@abcdw I took the chance to directly manage my email , which is a great way to feel the meaning of the Internet.

Be your own host 😉

abcdw,
@abcdw@fosstodon.org avatar

@strk I already have a lot of things to manage and fun with selfhosted mail server is not what I'm looking for at the moment. I guess it's better to give this job to people, who do it professionally ;)

superkamiguru,

@abcdw been using mailbox.org for a few years now and have been really happy with it. They offer a nice suite of features and have been reliable.

abcdw,
@abcdw@fosstodon.org avatar

@superkamiguru Yep, this is one of the option, I'm considering.

EMDiscussions,

@abcdw Perhaps consider Runbox? Norway based email. Sign up and pay within 24 hours and get
2 years for the price of 1
on the Micro, Mini, Medium, and Max plans.

abcdw,
@abcdw@fosstodon.org avatar

@EMDiscussions It looks good, thank you

fidel,

@abcdw I use Protonmail. I have also heard good things about Tutanota and Fastmail.

At least Protonmail has Black Friday offers that you can benefit from.

abcdw,
@abcdw@fosstodon.org avatar

@fidel They both (protonmail and tutanota) doesn't support IMAP and other standard email tools, which is kinda sad.

fidel,

@abcdw Protonmail supports IMAP through their bridge: https://proton.me/mail/bridge

They need this extra piece of software because of their PGP zero-access encryption.

abcdw,
@abcdw@fosstodon.org avatar

@fidel Yes, I briefly read about it, but it doesn't make much sense, I have my own gpg key and can encrypt it whenever I need and want.

Also, I had a conversation with a proton mail user and I recieved email from them encrypted, however I couldn't reply back with encryption, because it seems proton doesn't expose pgp public key via WKD (it could be related to additional setup not done on custom domain).

dgr,
@dgr@toot.li avatar

@abcdw

This is why I send the public key as a attachment in every mail. This way you just import it.

On https://account.proton.me/u/0/mail/encryption-keys you can also import keys for advanced users like you.

Proton mail doesn't want to be able to read your mails so your browser needs to unlock your mailbox. IMAP would require them to be able to read your mailbox so they provide you with the bridge so you can install IMAP on a host YOU trust.

@fidel

abcdw,
@abcdw@fosstodon.org avatar

@dgr @fidel I understand why the proton bridge is needed for imap access to proton, but I don't think it's right architectural decision. migadu's approach looks more apropriate to me:
https://migadu.com/procon/#not-encrypted

dgr,
@dgr@toot.li avatar

@abcdw @fidel Not quite understand there approach from the link.
But I disagree on some of the points. Encryption on rest means it's a legal hurdle as much as a technological one and there hinting at the Hollywood scenario is stupid as IMHO the worries are nosy admins and greedy police states. I don't think I care about spam and viruses for encrypted mails. Also I could use the bridge to solve the search issue.

abcdw,
@abcdw@fosstodon.org avatar

@dgr @fidel The approach is to stick to vanilla emails without forced encryption and custom gui apps to access your emails via standard protocols.

If you want encryption, encrypt it with your usual pgp tool.

Personally, I don't see how proton and similiar services improve something, but I clearly see how they make it harder to use standard tools.

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