I don't get people that are here in the fediverse and *want to bring over* the content that is on FB, IG, TikTok, etc.

This has come to mind because all the chatter about Meta federating.

I see a lot of people saying they’d love to have that type of content here when Meta federates, and that those will be the best instances because they will have the most content, but they will still be accessible without compromising their privacy.

I truly don’t get this.

I’m not here for mass-produced content, if I wanted that, I’d be in other platforms. The beauty of these communities is they are not filled with posts that are all the same, algorithms and bots. It’s just a community of real people having conversations.

If you want mass-produced trendy content, please, consume it elsewhere, and when you are inevitably fed up, then come here and enjoy the slow-paced, real community.

PD: I hope this doesn’t come across as wall-keeping (or however it’s said lol), It’s my honest opinion.

WolfhoundRO,

… Some people just like letting the corporate algorithm sort content by controversies and rage baits. Maybe they will make their own instances focused only on that, but I hope that they will not be worth federating with. Eventually some of these will go back to corporate platform and whine on how “bad and bleak is the Fediverse”. Good, keep whining and “advertising”. We don’t want people with that attitude here anyway.

Yoz,

Block Meta

Admins please block meta on firewall level.

Kolanaki,
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Isn’t that what an aggregate site is meant to do? Filter content from other sources into user curated lists, ranked by users voting on them, thus creating a community of discussion unique to the platform?

DogMuffins,

I truly don’t get this.

I think it makes sense if you realise that people are here for such a huge variety of different reasons.

Some of us (including probably yourself) are here because we’re hoping that the fediverse might be an open alternative to corporate social and everything that entails.

Others are here because one of their favourite reddit subs might have closed.

Others probably got caught up in the fuck /u/spez thing and just think it’s cool to hate spez without really understanding what’s going on.

Others are probably here because it’s a just a new virgin landscape for trolling, or building a following or being some kind of influencer.

That’s why a lot of these people would see Meta’s arrival as great news. More people more content.

I will say though, the fediverse is the first platform that can cater to all of these people. For example, you might end up with a group of lemmy instances which refuse to federate with any instances which federate with meta. I’m not saying that’s a good idea, just that it allows everyone to be catered for.

MaDeX,

very diplomatic - but yeah we cant have it all :)

xaxl,

More people also = more problems, exactly the reason those places turned to shit too.

BrilliantDragon,

i mean if you want a social media network to grow…

xaxl,

Things don’t need to grow to be successful.

Ataraxia,
@Ataraxia@lemmy.world avatar

Right. Growth is how shit fails and ends up artificially kept alive.

DogMuffins,

A big part of the reason yes, but I think advertising has an insidious role also.

Lemmy instance admins have no financial interest in user’s time on site. There’s no outrage machine to drive engagement.

FuckSpez,

You don’t want this - that’s fine, you can just block the instances you’d like to avoid, that’s one of the best features of the fediverse. But if someone else would like to see this content, why not give them such option? Why would you want to decide for the others? Let them make this decision.

fiah,
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

But if someone else would like to see this content, why not give them such option?

because given half a chance, Meta will crush anything not-Meta

angstylittlecatboy, (edited )

Personally I want the Fediverse to become the norm. So that means not having an opinion on what sort of content I do/don’t want. I get why people like the “secret club” vibe but secret clubs of smarter-than-average people don’t make the world a better place. Letting the masses do what they always did in a better way does.

That’s not to say I’m pro-Threads; I don’t think gaining users through a single massive server which will be the way 90% of users engage with the Fediverse and can kneecap other servers that don’t follow their rules (which particularly worries me because of their ban on porn; I think most popular Fediverse servers ban porn, but not all, and with Facebook it’s clearly in the name of “advertiser friendly”) is healthy growth for the idea of federation.

Jelly,

On my Instagram account, I follow a whole bunch of zoos, rehabilitation centers, parks, etc. that would never join a niche platform but make absolutely amazing content. I would love for there to be a commercial product for that kind of content to reach directly the fediverse. I also enjoy minor “celebrities” (drag queens, podcasters, voice actors) who again, don’t really care for quirky alternative social media products. I wish I could see their content directly from my more private Lemmy account.

alertsleeper,

that is totally understandable. But, my point here would be, how are you profitable to Meta if you are keeping your privacy? That makes no sense to them, for them you are only as valuable as the data they can extract from you and the ads they can show you. So I do believe their end goal is to take your privacy away

loie,

Hasn’t every form of social media done this though? It’s on the users to collectively shape the culture of a site as a whole. For example Hacker news manages to maintain its ultra nerdy niche through the years, because the users keep it that way.

For years I’ve had two separate Reddit bookmarks on my toolbar, one for r/all and one for my homepage, because for me those were two completely different experiences. Reddit has both shitposting galore, and also (had?) r/AskHistorians. It managed to be both, and Lemmy can do that too.

x4740N,
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

Doesn’t mean the culture of a site is invulnerable to manipulation from the social media company itself and outside actors

golamas1999,

Absolutely no. Facebook is absolutely terrible. Keep them racist Karen boomers away,

Semenaisse,

I joined “threads” and spent about 5 mins reading their garbage opinions before deleting it. I like it how they act as though it’s the “less toxic” twitter lol. Wait until the freshness wears off, then they revert back to their default toxic state. I give it a month.

Aftermath6187,

Why are there so many posts on this same issue? Can’t people just comment on one of the multitude of other posts rather than creating new ones?

aceshigh,
@aceshigh@lemmy.world avatar

… there are too many Reddit posts on here. I wish lemmy could have its own content and vibe.

RecursiveDescent,

I mean most of the “Reddit content” on Lemmy is thing that get posted to Reddit from other sites anyway. I don’t think the reddit vibe has existed except the same tired comments for a long time now

aceshigh,
@aceshigh@lemmy.world avatar

it’s literally screen shots of reddit. it’s weird to be on another platform, but still look at reddit.

piecat,

And Reddit was just screenshots of Twitter/insta/FB

Start posting the content you want to see. That’s the magic of the new beginning.

Ruxias,

You could try to find content you enjoy on a community instead of just browsing All… It’s a big topic right now so of course you’re gonna see a lot of that when you’re scanning everything.

I’ve seen plenty of posts that are original, or are at least as original as they would be on Reddit.

alertsleeper,

I’m sure it will eventually, it might just take a little while to wash off the Reddit stink

Spliffman1,

Somebody help me, where is Meta expecting to populate it’s communities in Threads from? From it’s existing millions of sheep on FB and IG, then hope to get people from Elon’s sinking ship? I personally don’t see the advantage for us associating with that pool of people. They got 30 million sign ups already i just heard lol. I guess their sheep responded to the call immediately

samokosik,
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Whilst I completely agree that having deals with company such as facebook is not a good idea, currently we have a lack of content.

I fully understand you don’t want content by bots and similar rubbish. I don’t want that, too.

However, reddit was a good place for news and information. E.g. when I needed some tech support, probably someone on reddit already had a similar problem or I could ask and almost any relevant subreddit was spectated by some competent people.

TerabyteRex,

the amount of people on activitypub that are excited for Instagram threads amazes me.

alertsleeper,

Exactly!!!

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