I fly quite frequently and you get up so you can start gathering your stuff and get ready as fast as possible. I usually offer the person next to me a chance to get up and if they don’t, I do.
My knees get really sore and stiff sitting bent for a long time, I need to stand up when I can. I’m not in a rush to get off the plane 95% of the time (unless late for a tight connection obviously) but I can see how it’d look like that.
I’m convinced the only people that complain about this shit are tiny little 4’2" assholes who cant fathom that normal sized humans being crammed into a tuna can of a seat isnt just uncomfortable, its downright painful… So painful in fact that I will literally jump out of my seat the microsecond I am able to, just to end the constant incurring pain.
I’m above average height, and after I get off a plane I have to go take a big dose of tylenol and spend half the day laying in bed for the pain and misery to go away.
and thats with paying extra for aisle seat so I can stretch oneleg out every 30 minutes when no ones walking by.
Getting in and out of those seats when you’re over 5’ 10" is like getting out of a child’s lawn chair or a beanbag chair with arthritis and an oversized backpack. So every attempt is a feat of gymnastics of extricating your sore skeleton with cramped muscles with only the back of another passenger’s chair as leverage with a low overhead to avoid. It’s like doing contortionist work while hungover. And if you’re not in the aisle seat, you gotta get 1-2 people to get up so you can pass them.
As god is my witness I do not understand why anyone complains about this. There are many good reasons to stand up and try to get off the plane quickly, and it hurts almost nobody (unless you get in someone else’s way, but that won’t happen unless the other person gets up early as well).
There are also some phobias involved here. It’s very common to be afraid of close and tiny spaces and heights, even literally afraid to fly, which is translated to be inside something that flies. A lot of people travels for business and have asshole bosses, so I can’t blame them for being in the rush to get some place in time.
As all the people saying they stand up to stretch their legs imply- we shouldn’t be mad at the jerks who get up to get off the plane first, we should be mad at the airlines for packing planes so full that there’s not a reasonable amount of leg room unless you pay a premium for it.
I have noticed that people in first class are often still sitting there when I leave in coach. And I don’t jump up to be the first off the plane.
I find it comical to watch all the people in a hurry to stand in a line for 5 mins before the door even opens. Even for long west-east coast flights I can manage to sit for a few more minutes.
It’s the same with boarding. I just wait till most of the line is done so I don’t have to fight to get to my seat.
People standing up is fine for me. What I hate is when these people move into the aisle before the plane has stopped moving and then crowd the aisle in such a way that deplaning in a controlled and orderly fashion is no longer possible.
True tallish people will face trouble standing up. The main issue once people stand up, the aisle gets crowded and then deplaning is not all orderly. It would be nice if people allowed deplaning in a controlled way so that the people near exit disembark first and we advance row wise in an orderly fashion. Unfortunately this never happens
Sure, but it would also be nice if airlines didn’t put space between chairs so tight that most people do not have a comfortable amount of leg room.
What I would give to live in a world where user/customer experience was prioritised over squeezing as much profits as possible.
And no, “tallish” people will not be the only ones facing trouble standing up. I am of average height. I cannot stand up in my seat on a plane.
I guess that depends on the country. In mine the average height is only around 170cm for men and around 160cm for women so less of an issue. In countries like the Netherlands, the average height(for men) is around 185cm so for them even ‘short’ people will face issues.
I’m only slightly taller than that and I have to bend my head way down.
I have no idea why you’re arguing that you can comfortably stand up in an airplane seat without being very short when just looking at the picture shows that you can’t. Unless every single person standing is really tall and so is the guy bending way down while trying to stand in his seat.
But hey, what am I going to believe, you or my own eyes?
Frankly neither do I. I guess I was bored at the office and was just curious to look up the average height statistics. Your are right though. Fuck the airlines. They should give us more head room and leg room
You could argue that standing up immediately helps unload faster. Standing up not only helps get rid of the pain of being crammed in an airline seat but I immediately get my duffle from the overhead so when it’s my turn to go, I go. Meanwhile the people who haven’t gotten up block the aisle while struggling to get their bags
I stay seated until i can get up and leave without queueing. Usually I walk past the whole plane while going to the exit because they are lost, on the phone, waiting for friend, being retarded.
There is indeed in most of the world, in the form of intercity and high speed rail. There used to be the former in a way bigger proportion of North America than there is now.
If money is your only consideration when travelling 700miles (about how far 2h flight usually is) then I don’t consider you a reasonable and functional member of society, especially if you’re travelling with others.
Please consider your effect on the environment when travelling, cars can take a lot more than one person.
London to Marseille is a 2h flight (probably 5-6h if you include door to door airport travel and waiting) but driving takes just under 12h. If you say you can’t afford the cost of the ferry, then consider why are you getting a plane in the first place?
Small compromises can be made to make the world a better place, so remember you have options.
Holy shit. Did you think for ever a split second before typing that comment?
Money, for most people who are not well off, IS THE BIGGEST CONSIDERSTION.
I am not a functioning member of society, if I can’t afford to spare multiple times amount of money and time to lug myself, in my shitty car for 18+ hours or in public transportation for 22+ hours to see MY FAMILY like once every 2 years.
Because it’s individuals who caused global warming, right? Not the corporations, who knew of it for decades and didn’t give a shit in pursuit of higher profits.
I seriously hope this is a troll and you are not actually that idiotic and/or smug.
HOLY SHIT, did you even think before replying to my comment?
Why are you flying between cities if you can’t afford to eat your breakfast in the morning. You’re a fucking comic
If you take all the individuals off this planet there will be no global warming, don’t cope yourself behind major corporations. They are run by individuals you moron. Individuals which would lower their plane fleet if the demand reduced.
You’re a deluded cop out kid which isn’t worth anyone’s time
Flight is airport to airport. You neither live or reside at either airport. Measure door to door for a more accurate comparison, I don’t fly from my driveway to my destinations back garden when I get a plane. I have to gget to the airport on a train, check in, go through security, wait for delays, wait at baggage collection and get a cab on the other side.
It’s not going to change the outcome but if you’re going to use numbers to measure a difference, try to consider all the facts.
In my case even adding the time on airport reaching it etc and even with my shitty connections as I live in a small town still much less. Of course that changes if there is a cancellation or similar.
And those numbers I provided was the car/train from big city to big city near airport of departure and arrival. Not the towns I end up going to, because they are much less.communciqted and adds more time.
Terrible comparison. Door to door with up to four people and baggage it’s a 7h drive, that 45min flght is not door to door..
My nearest airport is 30 mins to the train station, 15mins walk to the lobby 60mins in check-in, 60mins contingency waiting at the gate, then 45mins flight which is probably delayed 15 mins. Then another 15 mins waiting to get off the plane, then 20mins waiting for baggage and another 60mins to get to your destination.
Yes it’s probably still faster, but don’t try to compare a flight to a drive in the way you just did lol
Also thanks for fucking our environment to save yourself 2-3h
It’s 45min flight + 40 min bus to the airport + ~30 min wait for on boarding (not a lot of security theater/long queues). Let’s add another 40 min for takeoff and getting my luggage. 40 min bus from the airport to Oslo for a total of 3 hours and 15 min.
It’s literally more time on the bus than on the plane, especially for those of us who don’t live in Oslo and need to take the bus for even longer.
If I were to be realistic with the drive, I would add another hour to the drive as you’ll likely want to stop to eat during the drive. That’s half the time of what it takes to drive.
I’ll drive during the summer since I can stop halfway through and take a short hike in the mountains before continuing, but during the winter you run the risk of the roads getting shut down if the weather is bad over the mountains.
Also thanks for fucking our environment to save yourself 2-3h
You’re welcome, I’m sure those 2 flights per year by someone who doesn’t even own a car and probably never will is ruining the environment lmao.
Yeah my point wasn’t that it’s faster to drive, my point was your original comparison was unfair.
What you’ve described is far more accurate representation of the choices and their durations.
You ended up multiplying your “time it takes on the plane” by over four times. It went from “45m” to “3h15m” which was the main point I wanted to get at.
Secondly, it is an undeniable fact that flying has a larger effect on the environment per person than driving even a shitty old car. Don’t try to cop out, the least you can do is own it and say “so what”. Remember this next time you fly (2 per year alone is a lot btw).
I’m not going to try to argue what choices you should make, just be educated in the effect of those choices.
I feel like the added time to and from the airport is something everyone are aware of, it’s pretty much the same regardless of flight time. The flight is still a 45 min flight. I don’t work for “big air flight”, so I don’t have anything to gain on convincing someone that flying is more time effective for certain trips.
2 per year alone is a lot btw
In what world is 2 flights per year a lot? It’s a single round-trip.
My buddy who works as a robotics mechanic flies every month for his work, my old man working off-shore flies 4 times every month. Your typical family/couple will take a trip or two on vacation every year. I feel like the odd one out since I got a cabin where I spend my vacation instead of seeing the world.
Don’t try to cop out, the least you can do is own it and say “so what”.
I’m not trying to “cop out”, why would I make excuses for strangers on the internet? I don’t feel any guilt for what’s a literal drop in the ocean. There are other glaring issues that I’m more concerned about than flight traffic. If you hold a different opinion that’s fine and I’m happy to hear it.
I’m purely sharing my opinion on a site dedicated for that. It’s a good way to get perspective and opinions from people across cultures and at different stages of life.
We cannot have airlines that exist purely for emergencies unless they are so cost-prohibitive that they are only usable by the rich. In order to have airplanes criss-crossing the world for that purpose, they have to work on a regular basis.
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