Wasn’t there some series of news reports about scams involving children pretending to be lost, but there was some person nearby waiting to jump you?
I’m not sure if those reports were accurate but i remember hearing about the scam and there being some fear around it. I would like to imagine there’s the possibility of this individual overreacting to such reports, and maybe they aren’t legitimately afraid of a six year old, but i don’t actually know that to be the case.
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Talking about stuff like this (link below). Again, not saying that the individual was right, but sometimes people read a report and go crazy over It
Right, totally agree. Hopefully it doesn’t seem like i would remotely disagree with that. Although I’m not aware that he shot anyone, i did infer that it’s a crazy overreaction nonetheless. But everyone seems to be focused on him being afraid of the child, when i don’t think that’s quite accurate.
That doesn’t make him smart or correct. He’s still crazy.
I’m over guns in the US it’s stupid. We are all numb to killings/shootings. That’s now how it’s supposed to be. We need tighter regulation across the board not state by state.
A scared population is easier to control. Brainwashing 101. The fact that people fall so easily to these ploys is scary. It’s like the Internet works backwards on many people. God was right. Humans don’t deserve knowledge. In my best Nicholson impression: They can’t handle the information!
7 years ago… Ten years ago now? I was reading electric and gas smart meters that were unresponsive. I’m not sure if it was more suspicious that I knocked (company policy) before doing sneaky peaking around side yards, but in the last couple months doing it there were 2 times I was definitely approached with a hand on a firearm (me in electric blue jacket and highlighter yellow safety vest). dude, chill the fuck out and answer your effing door
I don’t get it. If a doorbell freightens you so much, why don’t you get a most with a drawbridge, why have a front door and especially, why have a bell? At that point it’s just a Honeypot and you’re just there waiting for some kid to press it so you can murder them
People are generally not too smart but Republicans are just in a whole league of their own
Does anyone ask these psychos why they’re so utterly terrified of everything? He’s basically saying he’s scared of kids at his door. This is not badass tough guy behavior, I don’t care if you’re “not fucking around”, you’re a scared little pissbaby.
My buddy from HS is one these right wing idiots. He had a story bragging about how he scared away a census worker who had the audacity to ring his doorbell unexpectedly. People are fucking dumb
Way too many people, especially Americans, have a gun-slinger complex. They’re looking for an excuse, any excuse, to use their guns, and feel like they’re “heroes”. These people are dangerous and the antithesis of what gun owners should be - responsible and careful. This ain’t the “well regulated militia” mentioned in the constitution, this is angsty, angry, insecure people with issues trying to act tough by shooting someone.
I don’t know if exposure to modern gun culture makes people paranoid, or if paranoid people are just drawn to whacking off over their guns. But here they are ruining it for the rest of us. As usual.
Either way, most (all) of us do not have the types of enemies where we need to slink around our own homes strapped all the time, ready to dive under the couch at the slightest bump, rattle, or… ring of the doorbell. Dude. Nobody is out to get you. I promise.
I have an idea: If you don’t want motherfuckers ringing your doorbell, don’t have a doorbell.
It’s a murder fetish. Flat out. They can hem and haw all they want, the end goal of owning a gun is murder.
“what if someone robs you?!”
So what, take my wallet with no cash and a card that’ll get locked. Take my phone and watch that are locked and my phone is set to factory reset after a few wrong codes. I can replace them.
“What if someone breaks into your house?!”
It’s just stuff. 🤷 They don’t want my fireproof document safe they want my consoles and pcs. My pcs are all backed up off site and the drives are encrypted.
In both cases I have serial numbers etc of everything also saved off site to report them stolen.
I put life over stuff. If you gotta pull a gun on me and demand my wallet you’re CLEARLY having a worse day than I am. If I do have cash whatever take my $50 idgaf 🤷
Well, I mean, depending on how you define murder. The end goal of a gun might also be hunting (which might be murder depending on your definition of like, whitetail deer being something worth preserving), sport shooting, or vintage collecting/odd engineering collecting. The main alternative use case mostly being hunting, I would say, nine times out of ten, which is still shadowed overwhelmingly be people who are super fear-mongered about randomly getting shot. You can definitely still kill someone with, say, a hunting rifle, a .22lr sport pistol with a barrel weight and a custom grip and a 1000 dollar reflex sight, or a vintage civil war musket, right, but I wouldn’t say that any of those things are really like, carried or owned with the end goal of killing someone.
I’d also bring up, as an intellectual point, more than anything else, since this really doesn’t tend to be a successful tactic in modern society, that someone can take all your stuff, right, but it might also be a very valuable tactic to just straight up kidnap you. There’s human trafficking, but then there’s also, them trying to extort your immediate family. You would see this more with nobles in the middle ages, though, I don’t think such a thing is really common enough nowadays to be worried about, basically at all, for the same reasons that it’s kind of absurd to expect someone to randomly break in to your house and steal all your shit while you’re still there. Most people looking to rob someone would much rather do so while nobody’s home, for pretty obvious reasons. If you were to kidnap someone, you’d probably want to go for the highest ROI possible and just go for like, a super rich trust fund kid, or something, which isn’t gonna be the vast majority of people. I think this tends to be the case more often in other countries.
The fucked up part to me is that we have convinced basically the majority of gun owners, who might otherwise be normal, non-gun-owning people in a different society, that they should own guns on the basis of self-defense, which is kind of mostly insane flat out. It’s not a belief that’s based in reality for the vast majority of gun owners, it’s an idea that’s been marketed to them as a result of a politically funded kind of cottage industry that funds weapons manufacturing in america and abroad.
At the same time, as we’ve seen in this post, this also results in a lot of crazy people with guns, which begets more people with guns in response. A literal arms race, much like we see now with car sizes, where people are convinced they must buy bigger to protect themselves. I can’t really, in good conscience, say that, for example, a black trans woman, that will probably on average live to be like, 30, mostly as a result of hate crimes, shouldn’t own a gun for self-defense. They might not want to own a gun for other reasons, right, like mental health, or not having the ability to really secure it or use it effectively, but I can’t really disagree with them on the basis that they would want to own one for self-defense. I would politically advocate for this not to be the reality in which we have to live, but I can still acknowledge the reality of these sorts, honestly not super uncommon edge cases, while I work against it.
It’s sort of the same frustration I encounter when someone inevitably brings up how, oh, well, they would otherwise take a bike, or have a small shitbox, right, but their kids, really, it’s to protect the children. Really, they live way out in the boonies, and they have 7 children, so of course they need an escalade capable of towing 5 horses. I can’t really argue against that, you know? Most people don’t give a shit about like, what intellectually scales for society at large, they just give a shit about what’s through their own myopic worldview, and I can’t exactly blame people for acting in their own self-interest, even if it ends up being kind of shittier for society at large, or if it ends up just playing into a kind of broader cycle most people aren’t privy too.
That’s kinda my thoughts on the matter. I have a couple rifles and shot guns that are mostly just family heirlooms, and one rifle that’s explicitly for protection.
Unfortunately i live in one of the most dangerous states in the south, and I’m a minority married to a white woman. When all the racist people in the state were getting all crazy during the trump years, I decided having a rifle that wasn’t an antique was probably a good idea.
But it’s pretty much explicitly for protecting my family and friends from the potential of eventual racial violence. I would actually feel kinda bad for anyone who actually tried to rob my house, there’s just nothing to really steal. Definitely nothing worth dying or killing for. Hell I’d probably make a pretty good return on the insurance claim.
As someone who rang every doorbell in my neighborhood multiple time a year from ages 6-11 to sell cookies, cookie dough, frozen pizza subscriptions, candy bars and magazines, fuck this guy. But also, we need better funded schools in the US… do kids still have to do this shit?
There are articles about this incident as the person posting was a public figure.
I also think he died later that year of "natural causes" at home, and that he was actually known for being quite a humanitarian. I remember speculation that he had suffered serious health and especially neurological damage from covid -- and no, I don't believe he was any kind of antimasker or the like. Hopefully I am not mixing up separate events.
If all that’s true, there’s a failure of someone to intervene. We have an altered mental state and threatening someone’s life for a minor nuisance. Someone really needed to see if he was serious and if he was still in a sound enough state to do things like drive or posses deadly weapons.
How would people feel if he really shot a kid for ringing his doorbell? When he warned people ahead of time? Especially if he was later found to have an altered mental state ifrom health issues?
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