denast,

Some of you might find it peculiar, similar movements to Sovereign Citizens exist in many other countries, but they take different shapes depending on local cultural context.

For instance, in Russia there is a movement called “Citizens of USSR” who claim that since Boris Yeltsin in the 90s had no constitutional rights to change the name of the country from “Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic” to “Russian Federation” (which is actually correct, he didn’t, not that it stopped him though), this change has never legally taken place, and “Russian Federation” is a placeholder corporation that occupies legally Soviet space. Why this can’t be applied to RSFSR/USSR itself being “illegally” established on top lf 1917 Russian Republic, is a mystery.

Citizens of USSR even issue their own passports, however, their goals are exact same with Sovereign Citizens - tax evasion, ignoring traffic rules, and driving without a license.

BonesOfTheMoon,

Apparently some form of them exist in 26 countries!

Mkengine,

In Germany we have Reichsbürger

BonesOfTheMoon,

Yes I’ve heard. That must be weird to deal with considering how straightforward Germans seem to be.

denast,

It really amazes me how some people balance out almost definite intellectual underdevelopment with an ability to form and write absolutely coherent sentences. It seems that one should exclude the other, but no.

edgemaster72,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve heard of the letter of the law and the spirit of the law, but not the color of the law. Is that what Pocahontas was singing about? Or is it some weird triumvirate of bureaucracy? In the name of the Letter, the Color, and the Holy Spirit of the Law?

robocall,
@robocall@lemmy.world avatar

🎵You can own the Earth and still

All you’ll own is Earth until

You can paint with all the colors of the wind law🎵

TheFriar,

I know it exists, because of an album I love called “under color of official right,” and I heard the singer talking about where the name came from, some Detroit politician was charged “under color of official right.”

But here’s the legalpedia definition of “color of law:”

Color of law refers to the appearance of legal authority or an apparently legal right that may not exist. The term is often used to describe the abuse of power under the guise of state authority, and is therefore illegal. The term was used in the Civil Rights Act of 1871, where the color of law was synonymous with state action and referred to an official whose conduct was so closely associated with a state that the conduct was deemed to be the action of that state. The Act grants citizens the right to sue government officials and their agents for using their power to violate civil rights. An example is the history of redlining, which can be seen in this map from Syracuse, New York.

Pratai,

Can someone explain their issue with all caps? Why is this a thing with them?

Chip_Rat,

PRATAI is a corporation, which the government created for you when you were born so they could enslave you to do terrible things like obey traffic laws. Pratai is you, the non person “natural man” who doesn’t have to obey laws as long as you know this one weird trick!

Pratai,

ROFL! Wait… they actually believe this?

Crow_of_Minerva,
@Crow_of_Minerva@feddit.it avatar
Pratai,

Unbelievable….

TheFriar,

lol I’m pretty sure this lemmy community alone is responsible for 50% of münecat’s new viewers. Sucks she hasn’t done anything for like almost a year, though. Anyone in her patreon to have any news on new videos or anything?

Crow_of_Minerva,
@Crow_of_Minerva@feddit.it avatar

She deserves them all 🔥🔥

TheFriar,

She does. She’s so goddamn funny, super talented, clearly smart, principled. She’s awesome

Efwis,

It’s idiots like this that make me embarassed to be from Iowa originally. Sovcits are such idiots. They seem to think driving is a right not a privelidge. IMHO, they shouldn’t even be allowed to own a car.

TheFriar,

Oh, it’s not just Iowa. It’s Australia, the UK, every single state. Montana…

bizzle,
@bizzle@lemmy.world avatar

I live out that direction, we call it Meth-scatine lmfao that whole town is greasy as fuck

NewNewAccount,

These give me so much satisfaction.

BonesOfTheMoon,

Aren’t they funny?

OutlierBlue,

Only because we don’t have to directly deal with them.

BonesOfTheMoon,

My lawyer friend does. One of them sent his court a 9 million dollar bill last week lol.

Bahnd,

As in a bill for 9 million dollars or a 9 million dollar bill that they made at home? (One should assume the latter was made with crayons.)

BonesOfTheMoon,

A bill for 9 million. I’m sure it could have been made with crayons as well.

frickineh,

How to turn a traffic ticket into a warrant in several overly complicated steps!

s0ckpuppet,

Won't pay their fair share to help maintain roads and driver safety, but yet somehow totally have all the right in the world to use said roads.

These fucking idiots wouldn't know what the social contract was even if it crashed a car right into their living room.

chulo_sinhatche,

If it crashed a means of conveyance* right into their natural domicile*

s0ckpuppet,

10/10

TheFriar,

Am I driving drunk? No, I’m traveling drunk!

pensivepangolin,

I hate these people. It’s one thing to be dumb and obstructionist. It’s another to think that being dumb and obstructionist by spewing pure nonsense makes you clever. The fact they think they’re clever damn near gives me a stroke.

derpgon,

And wasting manpower that could be used to fight crime. Also using taxpayer money.

TheFriar,

Well, let’s not pretend these patrol cops are out there “fighting crime.”

I will say, watching sovcits interact with cops…is a strange conundrum mentally. I find myself thinking, “oh my god, shut them up.” And then they smash their windows and drag them out of cars and I’m like “ew.” But then the sovcit keeps screaming “I EO NOT CONSENT, I DO NOT CONSENT! SOMEONE CALL THE COPS!! HELP!” And then I’m just confused and upset with everything happening.

derpgon,

I mean, it’s not just cops per-se. Lawyers, office jobs in law enforcement, judges, and probably many more, are all affected.

MacedWindow,
@MacedWindow@lemmy.world avatar

I love the careful checking of caps vs no caps like it really has an effect on anything

ricecake,

I’m amused that computer systems slowly updating to accept names with expected casing is going to cause their entire thing to slowly crumble.

It’ll be into a different delusion, but at least the casing thing will be broken.

Granite,
Granite avatar

But they won’t leave the delusion; the delusion will adapt.

ggppjj,

I do not consent to adaptation! I do not stand under you!

Kerb,
@Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

id expect that they will flip it arround at some point and claim, that all caps is the “real” name

mrcleanup,

When magical thinking is involved, nothing is impossible.

TheFriar,

Except logic 🌈⭐️

YurkshireLad,

I love the assumption that because something isn’t all caps, it has an effect on the law! Made my day. 😁

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