"Forcing" magazine federation from other instances?

Going straight to the point: I was wondering what is the criteria for kbin to pick federated magazines (number of subscribers maybe?) and if there is a way or workaround to pull/force them into the "All magazines" list.

For example, I am interested in https://feddit.it/c/teoriamusicale, which would translate into kbin's URL https://kbin.social/m/teoriamusicale@feddit.it. It has been created weeks ago and probably it hasn't been picked because of lack of content. I would like to contribute to it without having to create a feddit account (I'm quite attached to my kbin one).

I'm sure many of us here had/have the same issue - how did you work around it?

EDIT: and now it's there!... Miracles (or @ernest's kind intervention) :)
Anyway I think my point still stands, I guess.

venia_sil,

I'm seeing this wondering on how to force federate, but I'd like to also ask: how can we force re-federate? I'm having lots of issues with eg.: threads from kbin.social not being updated, and thus I can't reply to newer messages from here because they don't show up (even tho the threads themselves do). And this doesn't change no matter how many times I put @magazinename on the search box.

Hypx,
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I think certain instances are not being federated with Kbin.social. For instance, it doesn't seem like anything from https://lemmit.online is reachable. Same with https://infosec.pub.

EDIT: Correction. I think bots from those instances are not visible here. But I am seeing posts from regular user.

HeartyBeast,
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It looks like it hadn't been subscribed to by anyone on this kbin. I just subscribed to it for and it now exists here. No content come through yet, but hopefully it will get some soon

edit - yes, I know it says it belongs to ernest, but that's the way things work when the local copy is created.

To answer your question directly - I searched in kbin for teoriamusicale@feddit.it (or was it @teoriamusicale@feddit.it ?) - and then hit the subscrivbe button

MeccAnon,
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Yes, nobody subscribed to it because as @Armaell says, you can't subscribe to a magazine that hasn't been federated yet.

I also hope we will see the current content here! (It's in Italian though :D)

MentalEdge,
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Yes you can. You have to trigger the federation by entering the url to it into search (the url from the instance its on, not the kbin.social one it would have) or its exact name in the @name@instan.ce format. That’s how off-instance content gets federated. Someone needs to tell your server, it exists, and that they want it.

MeccAnon,
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Fantastic, thanks! Probably that's why it was never picked up - I was always searching either using @feddit.it or teoriamusicale@feddit.it but never using the first @ symbol.

Armaell,

Yup, I'm unsure how I'm supposed to subscribe to a remote magazine when it doesn't exist on kbin. But it does not exist because nobody subscribed?

🙃

MentalEdge,
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It works based on search. Once at least one person searches for an off-instance mag using the exact name in the @name@instan.ce format, and they subscribe, it should start getting federated.

abff08f4813c,
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How long does that take? I just searched for @AmItheAsshole and am waiting for it to show up.

MentalEdge,
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It can take a minute, depending on how loaded yours/that instance is. When it was slow I just left the search open in a tab for a bit and do something else, and it would appear by the time I’d be back.

abff08f4813c,
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Alas, one of the most overloaded out there - kbin.social

Been an hour and nothing yet.

Hypx,
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