FizzyOrange,

Even if “isn’t that bad” were true, it’s hardly a stunning endorsement. I wish Linux aimed higher than “not that bad”, but it always seems to hit “only some bits are broken”.

marcos,

I’ve had this one recently.

It gives you an error message, but creates the group anyway.

haui_lemmy,

(some!) FOSS developers when you open an issue about it: works for me. Closed

(Disclaimer: I know not all foss devs are like this. Especially kde devs are awesome.)

marcos,

Well, I didn’t report it (I’m not sure even how to categorize it), so I really don’t know how it would go.

TBH, I don’t even know what project hosts useradd. Never looked that up.

fortified_banana, (edited )

Looks like you’re on Fedora Silverblue (or other Atomic version). This is happening because the system groups are in /usr/lib/group rather than /etc/group and this causes the issue you’re seeing here. You can work around it by getting into a root shell with something like

sudo -i

and then getting the group added to /etc/group with

grep -E ‘^dialout’ /usr/lib/group >> /etc/group

after that, you’ll be able to add your user to the group with

usermod -aG dialout pipe

jkrtn,

Is etc the mutable part? Would you have to do this again to add more users after a reboot?

fortified_banana,

/etc is writable, so no reboots are required. That said, /etc is treated in a special way and each deployment will have its own /etc, based on the previous one.

So if you make changes to /etc then revert to a previous deployment, your changes will be reverted as well. But if you make changes and upgrade (or do whatever to create a new deployment), your changes will bu preserved.

jkrtn,

That’s really helpful to understand the caveats, thank you.

frezik, (edited )

Why can’t we keep system config things in /etc? It’s a method that works in unsurprising ways.

KindaABigDyl,
@KindaABigDyl@programming.dev avatar

It’s like when I run into some issue with how I’ve set up my system in NixOS and have to explain to a non-Linux user that it isn’t Linux that’s the issue but how I’m using an especially weird Linux lol

pipe01,

Right on the money, that’s what I ended up doing. Thanks!

Artyom,

Is that considered a feature for some reason? That seems objectively terrible.

fortified_banana,

No, it’s a side effect of how everything’s handled by rpm-ostree currently, and it’s on the list of issues to be fixed.

See Here for more info

drspod,

If you want to add an existing user to an existing group, use:

usermod -a -G <group> <user>

mojo_raisin,

I like gpasswd -a <user> <group>

Kolanaki,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Enter Password: ********

The password you entered is incorrect. Would you like to reset your password?

Y

Please enter your new password: ********

New password cannot be the same as old password.

😑

dditty,
Dark_Arc, (edited )
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

Yeah this one is ridiculous. There are some systems that have bounced my password … literally the one stored in a password manager … and gaslite me that I “must have forgotten my password.”

lemmyreader,

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