markus99, Arch neats on suicide watch
thedeadwalking4242, When the rolling release is a rolling release: D:
siha, When bleeding edge bleeds: ¶:
taanegl, Fedora: uhm excuse me wtf?
RageAgainstTheRich, I want it rolling in updates. Not rolling into the river and drowning itself.
VinesNFluff, It’s the second time sddm broke for me in the space of a week
I just disabled its service for now and am launching plasma manually.
Speaking of – Plasma 6 hooray!
Smokeydope,
VinesNFluff, Ya got any more of dem pixels?
Ghyste, Attempting to read this gave me a migraine.
Takios, Me looking from openSUSE Tumbleweed:
https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/ab9dbcdf-534e-434a-b338-8599a877bb61.jpeg
GravelPieceOfSword, Me feeling slightly more smug on opensuse slow roll 😊
bouh, Why are you using arch Linux if not to debug your system though?
excitingburp, There’s a difference between “can” and “want.” For example, OP might have been planning to watch his home vids with your mom, but couldn’t due to a rolling update.
bouh, That’s the problem with obnoxious updates, actually.
Titou, What did you edited ? Arch user here, never had this kind of issue. Also if you managed to install Arch, you should be able to fix it(maybe you switched from terminals, try ctrl+alt+1-9)
SkyeHarith, Sounds like a skill issue. Some people just don’t know how to use Arch.
Signed,
Someone who has spent more days reinstalling Arch than using it.
Nisaea, You were just lucky. For some of us ut was just about having the wrong hardware at the wrong time.
Not complaining, I knew the risks going in and still love my distro, but arch updates totally can brick a PC with no PEBCAK involved. It does happen. :3
Titou, Arch dosn’t break by itself, i’ve used bunch of Arch installations and every time it broke it was because of bad manipulation, not pacman -syu
SaltyIceteaMaker, Arch DEFINITELY breaks itself. See the whole “arch update broke grub” dilemma
Titou, Have you tried it or are you just spreading misinformation ?
SaltyIceteaMaker, I have not experienced it but half of the arch users on reddit seem to have experienced it. Also it’s not a continuous problem but rather a problem with a certain arch and grub version. However the fact it happened once (to many people) means it can happen a second time
ulterno, A grub breaking thingy happened to me too.
I was saved by having multiboot, with every OS having their own GRUB version installed. (just selected one using the motherboard’s interface)The problem occurred when, after
pacman -Syu
, I read notes in the output, one of which hinted I would want to update GRUB and went - “Sure, I’ll try the new GRUB update” and ran GRUB update.When it didn’t startup after a restart, I just used the debian’s GRUB to login to the OS in question, downgraded GRUB, reinstalled GRUB and then ran
pacman -Syu
again.I feel like mine wasn’t the problem instance that goes on around the web, mostly because:
- None of the mentioned fixes worked in my case.
- I feel like people won’t go out of their way to update GRUB most of the time.
Nisaea, I was among one of the grub fiasco victims. Thank goodness they rolled it back pretty fast and I knew how to chroot.
SkyeHarith, Arch breaking grub has happened to me twice. Second time I couldn’t even recover the install.
You learn a lot of good practices by using arch, eg a separate home partitjon, git repositories for your config files, maintaining a clean package tree etc. Installing Arch is also really useful for noobs like me to learn some Linux basics.
I use Fedora, btw.
EccTM, Nvidia Arch user here, are you just forgetting to rebuild your kernel modules after a kernel or nvidia driver update?
You can just add a pacman hook that triggers
mkinitcpio -P
after the linux or nvidia packages are updated. I’ve never had a no-GUI situation from a stray update… maybe one or two that were my own doing when trying to set up UKI’s though.
Dnn, I just followed the note that’s mentioned on the top of your link and installed the Nvidia driver as dkms package. I originally did that because of trouble with a new driver version and temporary downgrading is much smoother with dkms.
Also never had issues with the DE starting properly after upgrade since then.
EccTM, I’m usually using
nvidia-beta
drivers from AUR because they’re newer, so I just added the hook as an insurance policy.The DKMS drivers are probably the safer option because they’ll handle rebuilding the kernel modules. Even though (like EddyBot said) the kernel and nvidia packages are supposed to get updated together, sometimes you can spam
pacman -Syu
at the wrong time and only one package is updated and things go wonky…
Dhs92, Why not just use DKMS?
cyberpunk007, I think dkms is for inserting kernel modules, but I’m dumb and what’s the difference between both these approaches?
pizzawithdirt, The Dynamic Kernel Module System automatically builds your modules for your updated kernel.
EddyBot, The Arch Linux team releases Nvidia updates at the same time as kernel upgrades which should trigger a initramfs rebuild via mkinitcpio anyway
unless you do a partial upgrade anyway (never do that)
EpicFailGuy, yep, just as easy as windows
(I actually work with redhat and cent … bring it on neets)
SteveTech, I’m probably jumping to conclusions, but Nvidia?
bali10050, Yes it is
x2XS2L0U, I explicitly bought an AMD CPU and GPU and did not have any trouble with both of them ever since
redbr64, If I knew about all this pain many years ago when I bought my NVIDIA card, I would have done the same…
marilynia, God, nearly every time I Google a problem I have, it’s NVIDIA. The rest is that I want to share my steam library from my windows-installation on a NTFS drive
carzian, Can I talk to you about our Lord and Savior Tumbleweed?
JoMomma, Funny because just like those door to door bible sales, Tumbleweed promises magic and salvation, but completely crumbles under any stress or expansion
bali10050, Last time I tried it, the more custom stuff I put on it(custom color scheme, window decorations etc.) the more it fell apart
carzian, Admittedly, I haven’t done too much of that, but it might still be more stable than needing to reinstall your OS every 2-3 weeks?
bali10050, (edited ) I’ve done exactly too much of this stuff, and now I can’t stop. Dont let r/unixporn consume you!
Evrala, Just got a new laptop and put an arch flavor on it, keep thinking of going back to Tumbleweed. I’ve kept on Arch derivatives cause of the AUR, but I haven’t actually touched the AUR in a while, and a couple of the things I used the AUR for are now being published as flatpaks by the creators because of the Steam Deck.
carzian, Give it a shot, you can always go back
PainInTheAES, Just learn how to do everything in the TTY. GUIs are bloat
bali10050, I already did, but wobbly windows is my love!
otacon239, Somebody needs to make a wobbly terminal
bali10050, If that comes out I’ll buy a wobbly monitor, with a wobbly keyboard to make the set complete
kurcatovium, You don’t have to wait, just use LSD…
PainInTheAES, I love Linux Subsystem for Drugs!
squid_slime, Magnet on the side of my CRT 😍😍
bali10050, (edited ) I like this idea, great and cost effective tought!
daltotron, Just get a CRT with speakers instead, and then that’s basically the same thing, with the bonus that it wiggles and your eardrums split open when you play anything at a volume higher than 10
herrvogel, Don’t bother with the tty. If experienced chess players can play entire games in their heads, why can’t you just do the same to use a computer? Just type away and use your superior power usering skills to visualize the output in your head.
PainInTheAES, Thanks, now I’m running Quake on my brain.
pressanykeynow, But can it run Crysis with ray tracing?
Vilian, well arch moment, you could use snapshots or ostree to rollback if something like that happen
bali10050, I usually just do a full reinstall, it’s faster, requires less storage, and it’s more futureproof. I have my home folder at a different partition, so the files aren’t a problem. Archinstall made this a lot easier, and i love it.
massive_bereavement, How do you keep your etc?
Etckeeper?
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