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mochi, in Who owns the Fediverse? I mean who owns and runs the hardware that runs this system?
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The software is open source. No one owns it.

Different instances are run by different people of varying political backgrounds.

Mastodon leans left mostly. Pleroma leans right mostly. Lemmy leans left and even has or had hard coded censorship baked into their software. Misskey is Japanese language mostly, or populated by weebs of all flavors.

Your experience will definitely depend on who’s running the server but the overall integrated platform can’t be shut down by any one person or group. You can always change servers or platforms and reconnect with people.

GraceGH,
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It had hard coded censorship. It got removed because it ran into the Scunthorpe problem and also was blocking certain nonenglish words that were slurs in english. I believe now there's a configurable file you can set for your own filter now.

mabd,
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Scunthorpe problem, if anyone else is wondering.

ElectroVagrant,

And Scunthorpe problem for those on desktop. =P

Gamers_Mate,

Tom Scott did a video on that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcZdwX4noCE

TruckBC, (edited ) in Lemmy.world is compromised

Out of precaution we will defederate from lemmy.world until this is resolved.

Edit: Lemmy.world has resolved the issue

hawkwind,

It’s unresolved.

Roggie,

It is once again comprised

durablenapkin,

I appreciate the proactivity/precaution!

dampfnudel, (edited )

This seems unnecessary. The other Admins already removed the offending account as an admin.

Although requiring 2FA, for all admins on your instance seems appropriate. 

Edit: The instance is completely down after they briefly reinstated the compromised Admin’s account.

Please disregard my earlier comment. It’s a clown-show over there at lemmy.world right now.

TruckBC,

Thank you for the heads up that it’s fixed.

TruckBC,

Although requiring 2FA, for all admins on your instance seems appropriate.

To my knowledge we all have 2FA enabled. Will confirm.

remotedev,

Have they resolved it? I can’t comment there, or is that from this instance defederating from them? I don’t have my lemmy.world account on this app

TruckBC,

We believe they have resolved it but we will remain defederated overnight.

lunarshot, in Im very excited for Lemmy. It seems a bit rough around the edges, but I'm very hopeful for it. That being said...
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I think this is a little overblown. How long were you in reddit for?

A lot of the people coming over here were on reddit for 10-12 years, back in the old days. People are adjusting. A big majority of the new users on Lemmy aren’t interested in going back to reddit at all, nor do we want Lemmy to be reddit.

Reddit has degraded significantly overtime, I think that the API debacle was a massive wake up call. People are still adjusting and there is a very big wave of new users on July 1.

But many of us came over in early June when the changes were first announced. I haven’t been back to Reddit since and I have been a lot happier. I honestly found that my interactions have been very pleasant here, the content has been deeper and more engaging, overall I’m really excited for the future.

Reddit was fun but it’s time has passed for a lot of the users here.

teydam,

wholeheartedly agree

hiyaaaaa23,

It actually is quite nice here

quaddo,

Yeah, the reaction seems overblown.

Here's my $0.02 analogy: you just got out of a 10-12 year relationship that had it's hiccups and bumps here and there, but you were also slowly starting to question the decision that made you start the relationship in the first place, as well as why you keep making excuses not to leave.

Then one day, something big happens. So big, you just say "hell to the no", and leave. And you hear all your friends who have been dealing with pretty much the same issue in their relationships echoing your sentiments.

You all meet up to talk about your fresh relationships, and share the regrets about the past, and how you wish your ex well/ill/nothing whatsoever, depending on your particular level of benevolence/malice/callousness/numbness/emptiness/etc. Naturally the conversations will pop up, but they will be in greater numbers now than they will be in a month, 3 months, 6 months, etc. On a graph, think of it as the asymptote of 1/x, where x > 0, with x representing the number of days/hours/minutes/seconds/whatever since "the big event".

Talking about it brings folks comfort. Reassurance that "I did the right thing" and "they were totally in the wrong".

It'll become water under the bridge before long. Give it time.

WytchStar, in Im very excited for Lemmy. It seems a bit rough around the edges, but I'm very hopeful for it. That being said...
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Hey so I'm gonna drop a take that's not going to win me any friends. But I'm one of those people who had a reddit account for 14 years. Before that I browsed Digg and Fark and before that there wasn't much except niche forums for the things you like, and you had to come across them. I've watched the internet change since I went online in 98. Disregard that if you like, but I just want to make it clear where I'm coming from.

This is Reddit. Now. It always has been. We didn't used to call it Reddit. We used to call it Digg. "The world wide web." It's not a discrete state of mind. It's not a single company. It's all of us. It's who's on the internet. It's not the tech we use or the corporate goons we swear fealty to (or don't). All of this... interaction... is just one continuous human conversation/argument/experience. You can't shut it out by changing venue. We've already carried Reddit over here. Just like we carried Digg to Reddit. And each iteration, we change it. We mold it. We bend it to our changing habits, desires, and thoughts.

I don't talk in memes. I'm forty-four years old and I fucking hate this "isn't that relatable" subculture that is obsessed with finding the nichiest niche that ever niched but like man, I get it. It's about feeling understood. It's about knowing that someone out there gets you. Before image macros you just argued and flamed and that's just the evolution of the internet. The evolution of this grand conversation we're trying to have. It's not better or worse it's just different and it's always changing. I'm an Old on the web and I promise you some day Reddit will be a distant memory for everyone here just like Digg and flame wars and YTMND.

But for now, chill. It's a transition period. You can't stem the tide of change. You can do what I do, and just block those fucking meme groups and get on with finding shit you like or you can try to beg the internet to change for you. But I'm telling you, trying to ask people not to use the R word isn't gonna get much traction right now.

Rhaedas,
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I love this take on things. Reddit and the rest were the infrastructure to let people of like and differing minds have some sort of interaction. Even before the internet there were the clusters of local BBSes, then Usenet and forums. It's the evolution of the internet as a community. I will suggest that currently that community is sicker than it has been, even as it is more connected. Perhaps the various Big Social Media entities needed to stumble and give us a chance to think about better ways of doing what we've been doing since the beginnings.

I will agree with OP solely on the idea that some discussions maybe shouldn't bleed into other areas where it sidetracks other subjects. There's plenty of devoted communities now to the subject of Reddit as well as Twitter where people are looking for that.

Then again...one of Reddit's great assets even when it was annoying was the sidetracked comment chains. I suppose given the lower content here so far (but growing!) a sidetrack is a lot more obvious and feels like it's "all we talk about here".

quaddo,

Totally digging your take!

finding the nichiest niche that ever niched

I'll need to find a moment to drop something like this in casual convo.

There was the time Slashdot was at the top of my list. Sometime overlapping or prior to that, Usenet. Before that, FidoNet. Before/overlapping was Canada Remote Systems (CRS), at least for me. I distantly recall seeing a Usenet post from the author of Tetris one time; another time, it was a post from someone at the Antarctic station. A pretty wild idea, in those days. These days, it could be just another Tuesday.

Once upon a time I was a sysadmin (we were called sysops in those days) for a corporate entity. One of my tasks was to make sure the interoffice network routing was updated, to make sure that any new systems connected would be 'found' when needing to do something such as sending email, or removed so that the email couldn't be routed to a nonexistent entity. As I became more fascinated with Usenix and such, I eventually worked out how to send email through a corporate gateway to the very early version of the internet, using bang-path addressing because sendmail/UUnet/etc. This would have been circa 1994. I also remember learning how to use the chat network available through my university's VAX systems, circa 1987. It was the first half of 1988 that I had a lot of free time and lots of SCO Xenix manuals, and discovered the permuted indexes therein. That was one helluva rabbit-hole. My earliest exposure to uucp and mail, and trying to imagine what it would be like to have our tiny office computer connected to other computers.

Can we be like, friends or something? heh

I don't see any "follow" thingy to click so... be seeing you around, I guess :)

steebo_jack, in Who owns the Fediverse? I mean who owns and runs the hardware that runs this system?

So from my understanding at least for kbin is that the software is open source and for kbin.social, ernest is paying for the server to run this instance and he is planning to get someone to help with the server while he works on the administration side. There are other instances run by other people and all the magazines seem to be backed up in one way or another in each instance so that if this instance dies, there is some parity? Not 100% sure on this last part so correct me if im wrong...

mmatessa,
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I looked around and found a donation page for Ernest and kbin.social at https://www.buymeacoffee.com/kbin

steebo_jack,

Yah i saw that and will be donating too. Servers arent cheap unfortunately and it would suck if he had to pay for it all out of pocket...

Maeve,

And daily living. Can you imagine the time sink?

GxC,
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Thanks for the link! Coffee and kudos passed along.

livus,
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Yep. I know it's not literal coffee but I love thinking of Ernest as this incredibly wired guy who is mainlining coffee from us as he works on kbin.

Maeve,

Kids used to live on Monster, Mountain Dew and coffee.

jherazob, (edited ) in (URGENT) Lemmy has an XSS vulnerability in the sidebar
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Beehaw completely shut down as a response

Edit: Post by the Beehaw admins, gonna stay down until fixed

TruckBC,

While I respect their decision, I believe that’s a over-reaction at this point and we will not be doing that, yet.

mr47, in (URGENT) Lemmy has an XSS vulnerability in the sidebar

I mean, if it's something that's editable only by admins of the instance, I'm not sure it constitutes a vulnerability, since admins can change the content to whatever they desire by definition.

AlternateRoute,

Wasn’t clear till further people commented that it was something only and admin could do. So I agree.

TruckBC,

We have yet to confirm if a vulnerability exists in the sidebars that can be set by community mods.

UncleBadTouch,
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can you temporally take away the ability for mods to put html or any kinda script into the sidebar, at least for now?

TruckBC,

No. Unfortunately. This is not a confirmed vector of attack at this point but we are monitoring.

ChemicalRascal,
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That would essentially be patching the vulnerability. A temporary fix would be just preventing the sidebar from being editable.

(Ideally the vulnerability would be patched, but these things take time.)

TruckBC,

At this point it doesn’t seem like community sidebars have the voulnerabilty. We are fairly confident that they have identified the voulnerabilty and that lemmy.ca is safe as long as our admin accounts are properly locked down which we have confirmed.

ChemicalRascal,
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Oh, good! That's excellent then.

AnonymousLlama, in Lemmy.world is compromised
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Lemonparty! Now that's a name I haven't heard in ages 🍋🍋🍋👴

ono, in Why is Lemmy looking like a mess today?

The recent Lemmy upgrade included new CSS rules, and you still have the old ones cached. Control+Shift+R or Control+F5 should fix it.

Shellbeach, in Are we defederating from Threads?

I want to know what you guys are talking about, and I think a get the gist of it, but my lord, do I feel old and don’t understand actually most of those words. Is there a “explain to me like I’m 5” place I could ask what are those federations and threads?

Trifictional, in Are we defederating from Threads?

I switched from my lemmy.world account to this one because I assumed this instance would defed from meta.

Badkid, in Are we defederating from Threads?

+1 for defederating

Arghblarg, in Are we defederating from Threads?
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I vote to block them as well. Don’t let Meta get its claws on lemmy.ca content or user info.

Thorny_Thicket,

How is defederating going to help here? I’m genuinely asking. Doesn’t that just stop their content from showing on our feeds? It shouldn’t affect the amount of user data they can collect which isn’t much anyways because we’re not using their proprietary software.

My understanding is that people on exploding heads for example can still read these comments too. They just can’t reply. Or they can but we don’t see their replies. Only the people that federate with them do.

Am I getting something wrong here?

imaradio,

I also dont underetand the tactic.

Couldnt anyone just start a single user instance and gain access that way?

throws_lemy,
@throws_lemy@lemmy.nz avatar

You’re absolutely right!

Meta is a threat to the privacy of fediverse users, if there are fediverse instances that remain federated with Meta.

Ross Schulman, senior fellow for decentralization at digital rights nonprofit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, notes that if Threads emerges as a massive player in the fediverse, there could be concerns about what he calls “social graph slurping." Meta will know who all of its users interact with and follow within Threads, and it will also be able to see who its users follow in the broader fediverse. And if Threads builds up anywhere near the reach of other Meta platforms, just this little slice of life would give the company a fairly expansive view of interactions beyond its borders.

wired.com/…/meta-threads-privacy-decentralization…

otter, in New Admins, Server Upgraded

Are there ways to help out in addition to donating? Im not as experienced with servers but I imagine there are other things that need doing as well

Shadow,
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Yes, post content and comments to help build the community!

anonymoose, in New Admins, Server Upgraded
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I really hope this little corner of the Internet does well! Welcome, new admins :) Thanks for your work, @smorks@lemmy.ca

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