it's more convenient for me to put a frozen ready meal in the oven for 30 minutes than it is for me to make dinner, even though the act of making dinner might take less than 30 minutes
but isn't that just based on the time preference of whatever you are giving up during the time you have to actually think about & make dinner when you otherwise would be whilst "cooking" food someone else made.
and that can be about what you enjoy. I like making my computer so shit. Others like fixing engines or playing video games, they're all different ways to scratch that same itch.
And technical expertise, and the ability to use a computer without accessibility aids, and the notion of what a “format” is so that they can open their kids’ halloween homework assignment without the formatting being completely broken, and the ability to solve computer problems on their own without calling Geek Squad or visiting a Genius Bar…
I feel like I’m going to get flak for taking a position that’s not completely anti-Windows, but please try to hear me out before casting judgment. I use both OS and think they both have merit. Linux- for the reasons listed in the meme, and windows- for those without the technical know-how, patience, or time for the better alternative.
That being said, if anyone thinks like how this Ed, Edd, N’ Eddy looking mofo in the meme does I’ll be the first to say that’s a horribly bad take lol
Of course it is. There’s 0 reason to come after anyone for choosing Linux as any, if at all, of the extra effort incurred is only going to affect them personally.
Edit: Not even a single flak in the comments, the happiest I’ve ever been to stand corrected. We’ve done it, world peace achieved.
Brother, we’re on the same team. There’s a Debian distro on nearly all of my computers. I was just trying to add a bit of nuance to the conversation and bridge the divide. We don’t have to be enemies.
I use both. I’ve tried using Linux on desktop and there’s always been a few handfuls of minor but annoying enough issues that make just want to go back to windows on my main computer. For my laptop that I don’t use often, Linux is fine. For hosting services on my local network, Linux is fine. Neither are prefect but Linux definitely has come a long ways.
How fucking DARE you. People should be forced to learn how to compile their OS, like Gentoo allows, and then have it crash and burn in front of everybody in social studies when you have to present your LibreOffice presentation about why Teddy Roosevelt was objectively the best president and spent a lot of time on making a slide with Abe the soyjack and Teddy the chad.
That reminds of the time a teacher asked to borrow my computer running arch to display a spreadsheet on the projector using hdmi. I couldn’t remember the xrandr command to mirror screens so I just lied and said “I don’t have a hdmi driver installed”.
HURD is the default GNU kernel. From what I here there are also GNU systems running on BSD'd stuff, and I suspect they're are many GNU systems running with Kernels users have created themes, whether for very specific use cases or just for fun. I recall following someone's blog an Diaspora* about the latter a year ago until she got bored with it.
Linux is slowly getting there, it's developers just need to drop the "git gud" and "special club status" mentality and concentrate more on user experience.
Some people clearly are! Some distros are clearly focused on getting a friendly interface for everything, and proton finally made Linux gaming possible, despite all the grumbling from “purists”
Yeah like I switched and love it and I think the gap is closing fast, but whether linux closes it or windows closes it is still up to chance. The easier Linux gets for everyday users who don’t want to learn command line the more people are going to use it. The more software that just works on Linux the more easily you’ll convince people. It’s not about getting to where your coworkers or your grandma can use it. It’s about getting your in laws to not need your help to use it after a friend recommended it
I think the problem is preinstalls. No one was born understanding how Windows works, we had gathered that experience over time. If the computer you were introduced to was a Linux system (with X11 and KDE or GNOME), then that would be what you would get used to. Unfortunately, getting Linux preinstalls on laptops is basically impossible. Vendors love that preinstall money.
Companies that sell “enterprisy” laptops (like Dell and Lenovo) usually sell a few models with Linux. And while not a laptop I wouldn’t be surprised if almost half of Desktop Linux users today have a Steam Deck.
I would be one of them 👋 I’ve used Windows up until I got my SteamDeck, & it works perfectly for my mostly light browsing needs, when I’m not gaming on it.
I think that would not change the opinion much among the existing desktop userbase. That being said the younger generations are not by nature desktop users the way Gen-xers and millennials were. I think getting GNU/Linux as the default desktop for educational settings I think will have. Thankfully there is some traction being made on this front, particularly in places like France, Brazil & Argentina. Then again I guess it's not an either or, as having more vendors with preloaded Educational focused distributions & support would make such adoption more likely to successfully launch in such settings.
I prefer Windows because I don’t need all the extra customization and in depth features, and I don’t want to bother setting them up. Like sure I could use commands to queue up file transfers, but I would never have the need and could get 99% of the way there with a drag and drop…
At this point trying to get around Windows would be inconvenient. The only “convenience” you’re sacrificing is that you’re probably been trained from kid to use Windows, and many things just work different on Linux.
If windows 12 is a subscription like the rumors say, it might finally push me to Linux. Right now I haven’t moved over just cause there hasn’t been a particularly annoying thing to do it yet
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I love yes it is an amazing tool. I never had an actual use for it since any tool I might want to use it on (like apt) already has some kind of command line switch for it already
But I just once in a while stumble across yes again and run it for half a minute and have a chuckle.
Aw man that thing was so useful during University. The assignment submission tool required saying yes a million times as it explain how the whole thing worked for every submission.
Terminal has plenty of convenience benefits over GUI as well. For example you can queue up long-running commands to go one after the other, something I didn’t realise how useful it was until I was using Linux full time.
I use this one all the time for archiving stuff and moving it from my PC to my file server. Tar archive a folder, generate a checksum, move the new files over to the server, and then delete the original folder:
yes linux is definitely only "slightly" more convenient than windows, and also definitely more reliable
in unrelated news i'm now into my 5th hour trying to get 2077 to run without freezing, and my system has only hard-crashed about 3 times during the process
But then again, is it Linux’ fault that publishers refuse to make Linux versions of their games, requiring the users to use hacks to make windows executables work on Linux ?
Why? I do things that are inconvenient all the time. It’s inconvenient that I have to go to work 5 times a week in order to make money. It’s inconvenient that I have to get vaccinated so that my immune system is stronger. It’s inconvenient to have to meditate for 20 minutes a day to make my thoughts less scattered. And so on.
It was the inverse for me. Windows 7 was always a nightmare to set up drivers, it was common to manually download the wifi drivers from the laptop's brand website. I groaned whenever someone asked me to help set up their PC.
Windows 10 just works out of the box. The only downside for me is aesthetics, I always preferred Aero.
I’m literally going to use windows 10 until it completely stops getting updated, by that point hopefully someone will invent a Linux distro that doesn’t irritate me
I have tried mint, I mostly did like it, but there were just some small things that really got on my nerves. The fact that middle clicking a webpage did nothing was unbearable, that’s how I scroll all the time
It does do something though, it paste directly from the latest info from the clipboard XD. So, if you highlight something, then middle click somewhere else(not just a browser, basically system wide) it will paste what ya highlighted.
default settings, everything on GNU/Linux can be customized. Getting done to change the default is always a struggle. For example it's been decades that in GNUDE the middle button click has been paste, so while it may seem dumb to you that it does that, it's user base expects that to be the default.
But as you've already found in this thread in a meme community, one of the best ways to learn how to customize your system the way you want is to claim in a Linux forum that Linux can't do such and such.
That’s “autoscroll”. It’s under the “Browsing” section on the General page of the Firefox settings. It’s turned off by default, but you just have to check one box to turn it on.
Yeah, it’s cyclical. They’re re-entering their shithead phase.
Embrace. Extend. Extinguish. The got smacked with those EU antitrust lawsuits and they reset back to Embrace, and started participating in open-source again. Then they started extending by doing shit like buying GitHub and adding even more cool shit to it. Now they’re entering in extinguish phase where they’re doing shit like making it difficult to change default browser, and integrating all their services together without the ability to integrate 3rd parties.
They’ll (hopefully) get smacked with another EU antitrust lawsuit and reset soon.
It’s legal and user pushback - and it’s a battle I’m bored of fighting. I just use Linux, and find it simpler. With Windows, it’s ads, forced updates, ‘upgrades’ that re-enable ‘features’ i never wanted, a billion background services, most of which I don’t need - and more.
Fuck the battle to keep shit from being shoved down my throat.
Makes sense, everyone makes the trade-offs they’re willing to make.
Next best thing to Linux is stripped windows installs like ghost spectre. I dual-boot, myself, but spend most of my time in Linux, with windows being a regrettable but useful occasional tool for gaming.
Linux is very reliable when used continuously in a static environment (eg. a server). I mean, 3300 days is like what, 9 years? (!!)
But as a desktop… let’s just say yesterday my friend brought their PC to my house and spent an hour and a half debugging a graphics card issue (yes, it was Nvidia) before we could play Distance (great game btw, highly recommend).
let’s just say yesterday my friend brought their PC to my house and spent an hour and a half debugging a graphics card issue (yes, it was Nvidia) before we could play Distance
Oh please, you say this as though no one has ever spent literal days debugging Windows quirks and issues. Windows updates especially have nuked many systems.
I’m sure if you’re doing advanced things in Windows then you can mess it up fairly badly, but in my personal experience, it’s never happened to me except in the laptop I had that literally fell apart.
I’m sure if you’re doing advanced things in Windows then you can mess it up fairly badly
I’ve helped so many people fix their Windows systems who barely know how to open their email. Computers are complex. No system is perfect (Windows less so IMO).
I haven’t had windows refuse to turn on after a update yet, but linux broke after a update. Probably wouldn’t have happened with a different distro, but can happen in both camps.
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