I’m glad I’m not the only one who truly hate’s this meme. I’ve had to listen to so many fucking gaming and entertainment channels that have run this cause the religious community is fucking idiots. Profiteering doesn’t mean shit if you spread their message of hate and repression.
The bible is not a credible historical source, and is also missing the 2000 most recent years of history. The middle east has had long periods of peace and prosperity.
Which was riven with civil wars and rebellions from a lot the groups currently fighting each other, or in a near constant state of war with one neighbor or another. The ethnic and cultural conflicts in the region go back several millennia. The borders that the declining European empires set up where just their attempt to turn ongoing conflicts to their own benefit.
Europe/Western World is really just in an unnatural state of peace since it’s still kinda shell shocked from WW1 & 2.
There was a 100+ year period of relative peace and prosperity after the conquest of Constantinople, just like today where Western Europe has had a period of peace and prosperity after the defeat of Nazi Germany. The revolts began when the Ottoman Empire entered stagnation and decline because of warfare with Europe. It has nothing to do with ethnic and cultural conflicts, it’s all economic and political and it always has been. The ethnic and cultural dimensions of the conflicts are merely set dressing for deeper structural causes of war.
Now that we have entered our own period of stagnation and possible decline, be prepared to live in Interesting Times.
They didn't just create the borders, but also actively pitted the different local groups in each region, all over the globe, against each other to keep them from joining forces against the colonisers and imperialists, so very deliberate war mongering.
Similar tactics are used today in the form of "culture wars" and institutional and systemic bigotry - we (the working class, the majority of the population) are divided and pitted against each other by those who want to keep us from joining forces and turning on them.
Not pretty much, they literally did that. The Rwandan genocide (probably the most well known, next to Darfur) was the direct result of Belgian colonialism and racism.
Me? Fuckin hell I must’ve been fuckin hammered that night mate. Sorry, don’t remember a thing. Tell you what, I’ll put right anything I did personally, alright?
tbh, up to 80 years ago Europeans were in constant war as well and nobody else drew their borders
EU had to be created to finally stop French and Germans from killing each other
Before the British Mandate, Iraq was part of the Ottoman Empire, and as Wikipedia says:
Throughout most of the period of Ottoman rule (1533–1918) the territory of present-day Iraq was a battle zone between the rival regional empires and tribal alliances
Before the Ottomans were the Mongols, who slaughtered their way across the world.
The only kind of “stable” period was when the Abbasid Caliphate had Baghdad at its core – but that only meant that the border wars were happening elsewhere in the middle east.
When the Europeans got to the Americas, they killed a lot of natives. But, they also made alliances with some of the natives who were eager to have a new ally in their territorial conflict with other native groups, because, surprise surprise, before the Europeans got there the native groups were in a constant state of conflict over territory too.
The history of humanity is conflict. Even chimps fight brutal fights with other chimp groups over territory, so it goes back to our non-human ancestors.
There’s nothing unique about Europeans and conflicts over territory.
A lot of the German wars in Europe I can think of right now where actually fought because of poorly drawn borders or were at least motivated largely by borders. Including French German wars. The Elsass-Lothringen dispute has always been extremely important for french-german relations.
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