BluesF, (edited )

Yes, but the point is that I will encounter thousands of men in my life, and I may be assaulted by one of them yes, but there will be thousands of them who don’t.

Each individual encounter with a bear is much more likely to end in death - even though bears often won’t attack you. The proportion of encounters with bears that ends in an attack is much higher than the proportion of encounters with men.

Look I have a healthy level of caution around men, I completely get why other women choose the bear. It’s a fairly silly hypothetical, and if asked in the street I would probably have answered bear with my tongue in my cheek too*. However, presented with an actual bear and an actual man I will obviously choose the man because they are much less dangerous than bears.

The whole point of this “discourse” (at least as I understand it) is that men are a more realistic and present danger than bears. The fact that women choose the bear shows the level of threat that they feel on a daily basis. But trying to actually compare the genuine level of danger presented by a single encounter with a random man and a random bear, the man comes out on top. Undeniably.

*To be honest a lot of this conversation has made me rethink this position. I’m trans so I have experience of being perceived as a man… And honestly I do feel for the men who don’t understand. Fear of men is justified, but I worry that conversations like this slide us further and further away from reasonable caution and towards hatred, and that makes me sad and worried for how the future will look. The more that men feel attacked by women, especially feminism, the less they will support us - and we do need their support.

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