Or you simply don’t pay anything at all for either service by downloading add-ons that unlock Premium
xManager & Revanced on Android, literally the only reasons (+ Stremio) I will never buy an iPhone as long as these services exist. You save hundreds of dollars every year. Revanced has more options than YouTube Premium too, like automatically skipping sponsor sections.
I’m all for paying for the media I consume, but I will never pay for YouTube. First and foremost, I don’t think they pay artists enough, which is why I buy all my music albums individually on services such as Bandcamp.
Second, I believe Google is working hard on turning the internet into a privacy violating walled garden riddled with unblockable ads, where all relevant technologies and standards are de facto controlled by them. I use uBlock and reVanced to block ads on YouTube and pay content creators through Patreon because I WANT to hurt Google financially by spending their compute resources without giving them ad impressions. I think everyone should do the same.
I took it for the summer because we move a lot with the kids and it’s useful for them to be able to download videos. They’ve been harrassing me so much to get back on through ads that I finally installed an Adblock.
The ad companies literally overabused it so much we learned mind-adblock anything that’s not directly overlapping the content. That’s why they need to be overabusing the pre- and mid- video ads so much now.
I was part of the Initial YouTube Premium (YouTube Red anyone?) So I havent had to see ads on any of my family devices in YEARS. Back when Google Play Music was included with it. Such a freaking bargin back then, bailed on Spotify immediately.
I realize that that stupid little choice has changed the way I consumed content. I don’t watch traditional media nearly at all anymore. Same for my siblings and cousins who’re on my family plan. I also like the fact it more directly supports the creators I come back to week after week.
The price increases have been a lot, and I’m fortunate to be able to pay for it. As my sole streaming platform I pay for, I find its worth the value. That DOESNT mean I agree with the scummy policies they’ve been implementing. It just sucks that with my conintued payment it sort of reflects the idea I am.
I’ve also been with Premium since the YouTube Red days. It was nice to have peace of mind of no ads on my TV (didn’t need PiHole) and mobile devices (iOS was wrestling with device adblockers for a while). I was grandfathered into the old pricing model until recently. It’s still not that bad per person, but if they raise it too much more, I’m gonna bail.
If youtube is ever able to completely make it so I can’t block ads, I will stop using youtube. I’ve stopped using reddit and have never gone back. I will get by.
I’d consider subscribing to YouTube premium but their scummy policies they thrust on their creators is absolutely terrible. It must be hell trying to tip toe around their platform.
The problem is that every other streaming service is fucking over their content creators too (part of the reason of both the SAG-AFTRA strike and the now ended writer’s strike). So any service you’re paying for has scummy policies in that department.
I haven’t seen Louis Rossman’s new video where the thumbnail claims their war on adblockers is backfiring, but i’m quite curious as i also found an adblocker for my smart tv that i’m going to try out when i get home from work.
If you’re just a bit tech savvy it’s useless, there’s nothing of worth Premium offers that you cannot get for free (maybe 4k stuff? I don’t use it personally). As for supporting content creators, I prefer to donate without YouTube getting a cut. I don’t care if the platform dies, substitutes with better financing models will take its place.
That’s really just not the case at all. It’s perfectly doable to get $5 a month per ad free user, so depending on how many creators and videos you watch they’d get that amount out of you every couple of weeks
Probably yeah, it depends how often you watch videos. I would much prefer a tip-based system than shoving shitty ads on everyone and blaming the consumer for getting around them. They make enough money by stealing my data.
I have it and enjoy it. It pays the creators and I don’t see ads. So don’t speak for me, please. Also, you need a reality check on what actually matters in life.
I do the same. It’s the main way I watch tv. Not just to support the content creators, but also as a way to aggregate all my “mainstream” interests in one place. From one app on my TV I can catch up on sports highlights, late night comedy clips, and my favorite music festivals, back to back ad free. And that was just last night
It’s crazy how people advocate for a free (as in freedom) internet with as much privacy as you want, then in the same breath tell you how they’re entitled to content without paying.
A lot of channels exist as a natural extension of an already existing business. I'm not going to support Google and the mass dregs that create clickbait garbage and predatory content that takes advantage of the algorithm in order to make as much money from ads as possible.
Not all content deserves to be monetized. Google isn't entitled to make money by simply hosting reaction videos and hyperbolic political commentary.
A lot of channels exist as a natural extension of an already existing business
I don’t know what that means
I’m not going to support Google and the mass dregs that create clickbait garbage and predatory content that takes advantage of the algorithm in order to make as much money from ads as possible.
Then pay and show Google that their business model needs to change. If you pay, then their incentive is not to maximize watch time, which is probably why you have a lot of clickbait trash. Or don’t watch YouTube.
Google isn’t entitled to make money by simply hosting reaction videos and hyperbolic political commentary.
And you aren’t entitled to watch videos without ads and without paying. Choose one.
Actually it’s quite the opposite, some of my friends are considering buying YouTube premium and even people on the other social media sites are advocating it as the “only good subscription”.
Plus one. Switched to it from Deezer as i couldnt listen to everything i wanted.
Am happy. Never had ads before but supporting the few youtubers i watch also feels good-er
I honestly think that YouTube has to embrace something similar to what Twitch does with subscriptions to specific content creators where they get around 50% of the subscription cost. I personally don’t value YouTube Premium because I know nothing goes to content creators except for the fact that it covers ad revenue income without showing ads.
I personally don’t value YouTube Premium because I know nothing goes to content creators except for the fact that it covers ad revenue income without showing ads.
Uh. Half of the cost of premium gets distributed to the creators you watch, and it’s a non-insignificant amount of money.
It sounds like you might be misinformed - a YouTube Premium subscriber watching your YouTube videos is worth, IIRC, 5 to 10 times more than an ad supported view for the content creator. I know a number of content creators have indicated as much for years - I wish I could cite a specific WAN Show episode from Linus Tech Tips who I’m certain has talked about it many times.
Casting works on smart tube by pairing it with revanced or official YouTube app via the remote control settings. After pairing, the cast button will send video to your smart tube app on your tv. The caveat is smart tube must be running first, it won’t be automatically launched if it’s not running like the official YouTube app when you hit the cast button.
Is this “set and forget” (I do it once and it stays connected for years), or do I have to re-connect after e.g. every TV restart? I assume it’s the earlier, which isn’t good enough for me.
Oh, that’s much better than I expected! In the past I tried the YouTube-in-browser version of this, and it disconnected when closing the tab, so I assumed it would be similar. Thank you for the heads-up!
Lol you’re the one contributing to making it worse. Google already loses money on operating YouTube and freeloaders only exacerbate that loss. They’re going to make ads longer, unskippable, and take away your perception of a choice. They’re going to kill every other option you have. Pay or stop watching.
Normally I’d agree with you, but this is Google, the 4th largest companies in the world, not some scrappy startup which might go away next quarter if they can’t hit their revenue target. If Google actually shutdown YouTube, I’d cheer because that’s when the real competition begun in the video space.
Right, so only scrappy startups deserve to run a profitable business and Google should be forced to choke down the abhorrent cost of YouTube out of… what exactly? If they were making money hand over fist on it, sure, fuck em. But they’re not. YouTube isn’t profitable and the reason there aren’t competitors is for that exact reason. They are literally free video data storage with no limit. No site can compete with that. Everything else would make you pay for a membership or have a small hard limit or even have some kind of gate yet you take it as the standard.
If YouTube fails there will be no alternative to take their place. Amazon might try, but their greed might stop them. They’re already a household name, what would the point be?
The thing is, I’m ok if Google do this right from the start. Instead, they use their massive capitals to run YouTube for free and squashed all their competitors. Vimeo was the most promising competitor in this space, but they can’t compete with Google’s infinite subsidy to YouTube and had to pivot. Now that there is no competitor around anymore, Google jacked up prices, reduced monetization rates for their content creators, locked up formerly free features behind subscription plans, and now declaring a war with adblockers.
If YouTube fails there will be no alternative to take their place.
So yeah, I’m not supporting Google in this space because this whole situation where there is no competitors to YouTube anymore is Google’s own doing.
Private park, where you can come in if you watch the bilboards. And I’m not looking at your bilboards. I’m sorry but I just won’t look at them like lol
Geez use a little imagination, public city parks aren’t the only parks
Your analogy falls apart like wet toilet paper. Private highways require tolls, a small contribution to the maintenance of the road. Renting a car, house, etc. The concept of letting people use something expensive for a small nominal fee is the very foundation of our society and on the internet, that fee can be pushed to advertisers if you don’t want to cough it up. Block the advertisers, you’re stealing the service, which comes with a fine or jail time. Since we can’t do that, want to know the alternative?
Blocking adblockers. Hulu and Twitch already do it. How long before they remake their player to do the same? You don’t get it. The mega corporation always gets paid and they will damn sure sink the platform if they can’t.
You can’t compare toll roads, this would be like a road paid for by billboards and you agree to look at the billboards if you want to use it. And no, I’m not looking at the billboards.
If you they didn’t want me to “steal” (lol) their bandwidth, they should have gates or whatever in it. Until then, I’m cruising through
Toll roads are a perfect example actually. You need it, alternatives are inconvenient, you have the ability to pay and drive through or you can choose not to. They just don’t have the advertiser workaround. It’s pay or fuck off.
Your entitled attitude is what’s going to get us to a point where premium will be required to watch videos. Adblockers only work because they let them. You’ll have a rude awakening soon.
You just described why it’s not the perfect example lol. Youtube doesn’t require payment to enter. Disney+ would be more like toll roads. Youtube is like road paid for by advertising along the road on billboards or whatever.
Your entitled attitude is what’s going to get us to a point where premium will be required to watch videos. Adblockers only work because they let them. You’ll have a rude awakening soon.
Lmao I’m really sorry but I’m just not going to look at your billboards
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