Edit: Imagine my entire account being banned from lemmy.world for disagreeing with an option that was REVERSED after public backlash. LOL! Enjoy your propaganda cesspool lemmy.world users
It’s weird seeing otherwise normal working class people rush to defend admins, moderators, governments and authorities all the time in situations like this. I’m imagining some college kids working at starbucks or grocery stores picking up their phone in between customers posting replies championing copyright law. It’s embarrassing
As an administrator of many different public-facing services I’m always going to defend other admins right to moderate their services in whatever manner makes them comfortable, even if I don’t agree with their decision.
It’s weird seeing people who think they are entitled to piracy. Appeal to emotion all you want. It won’t work. Boo-hoo. Poor college kids. You are still not entitled, legally, to copyright infringement. Creators and publishes DO OWN their intellectual property. Your attempts at logical fallacies are embarrassing.
Explains how it’s OK for you to not pay an artist for their creation when they do not offer that art for free.
Human Knowledge was develeped socially, its fruit should be shared socially. The commercial use of other people’s work is unethical and it’s basically what every copyright holder company do, with or without the permission of the author. To lock human knowledge behind copyright is more than simply wrong, it’s elitism. Thanks to piracy, several books that aren’t published anymore, several games and several movies were able to remain. Doctor Who, for example, have tons of episodes that only exists nowadays because someone recorded them.
It’s seems like a reasonable choice to me, I don’t understand why this is being posted on mildly infuriating, you can just make an second account if you want to go to that instance
Lemmy isn’t one place. It’s hundred of independent places across the globe that communicate with each other. Each subject to the laws where they are hosted, the laws where they provide service and the judgements of their independent administrators.
It’s reasons like these that I like to create 2-4 different accounts on different instances for all around the fediverse , so that if one fails I’ve got a backup, but also so I can “pick and choose” which pros and cons of each instance I like.
It’s obviously more to keep track of, but I encourage others to do the same: create like 3 different accounts on different instances, and toggle through them whenever you need something that one offers that another doesn’t.
Actually no, or maybe combine that with a pop-up to move to another more open, freer instance - with automatic subs, blocks and settings migration. That would be productive.
I’m late to comment, so I may be typing into the void.
I understand the admin’s decision to limit their exposure to legal risk. I had similar experiences as a small business owner and you would be surprised how quickly most people’s idealism is tempered by the risk of potential legal action. It’s totally possible to believe strongly in the legality of something and its benefit to society (in this case piracy) and still choose to limit your own legal exposure. As far as I know, none of us paid to be here, so the polite thing to do is say “thank you for hosting us” and move on if it’s not your thing (or just make a second account).
I believe our current copyright/intellectual property scheme is broken at best, and designed to fuck us out of every bit of culture that has ever existed, at worst. Piracy exists because the system is broken and the industry is entrenched and refuses to adapt to customer demands. It screws music fans, artists, and probably the individual low-level employees of many music industry companies and organizations.
Greed … it’s the cause of all these issues. Greed on the part of the corporations and industries that run these services and own all this content.
If they just tempered their greed, lowered their costs, paid themselves less, shared profits with those who actually deserve it and made all of it more affordable and even cheap for customers … no one would think of piracy and we would all just feel comfortable paying for services and content knowing that the money we did spend was being shared fairly.
Instead when we all know that the profits they make just go towards corporate greed, giving away money to shareholders who do nothing and give little to no money to the actual content creators while artificially inflating costs on all of us just to squeeze more out of everyone … those of us at the bottom really don’t mind pirating content because we know that the only people we are stealing from are the greedy idiots that instead feel that it’s normal for them to steal from us.
Everyone pirates everyone else … it’s a matter of economics … either we pirate them … or they pirate us. If we all live with an understanding, we learn to live in balance without pirating one another.
Right now the they’re tilting the balance against us … which is why so many feel obligated to raise the Jolly Roger once again.
They’ve recruited a lot of volunteers from various places around the world who could individually have some legal exposure I suppose but yes… It’s a bit disappointing overall.
Literally the best thing to do is spread the load and increase our diversity of instances and communities elsewhere other than one big one, to keep it sustainable.
lemm.ee, lemmy.ml, .cafe even all are calling for users. Use browser.feddit.de to find others.
I assume all instances have rules and how far out there you want to go is up to you. Someone says lemm.ee doesn’t block these sites but rule 2 of that site is No Illegal Content which could arguably cover piracy related groups. Doesn’t stop you just having an alt on the server hosting this stuff you want to look at however. Just be aware that if stuff is illegal and it’s illegal in the jurisdiction the server is hosted in then it’s unlikely to last long.
Fact is, they have good reasons to. Lemmy likely was threatened by a larger industry that could’ve thrown millions of dollars around in a court to get Lemmy taken down. The guys running Lemmy wouldn’t have enough money to win a lawsuit, the website could easily be taken down by a larger entity. When it comes to losing the community or blocking a couple communities, it’s an easy choice. In summary, they’re just trying to save the website by avoiding future lawsuits, and these communities still exist but can’t be accessed on Lemmy itself.
I guess the problem from an idealistic standpoint is fine, let them sue. Hosting an instance is not about being profitable. Do what you need to do as far as shell corporation and all that to protect your personal finances, or just close the instance instead of censoring. The community is just people who will find another instance, it’s not empowering to treat people like they will fall apart if you don’t submit to hegemony.
Now, it’s just an instance that is perpetuating unfair systems of power, instance of helping to democratize the internet.
I don’t care about the piracy community but people are complaining about they having to create multiple accounts and saying Lemmy will never reach critical mass like this…
But why would we want to reach critical mass? I don’t want to sound like a gatekeeper but growing just for the sake of growing is never been good on anything.
Specially as Lemmy is still an alpha software. And people are still figuring out how is the better way to moderate ourselves instead of waiting to Big Corpo to do so.
This is part of being an early adopter. You give feedback, sometimes things don’t go your way, other they hear you out.
I’m loving the experience so far. The Fediverse still is not mature enough (we block fast) but we are still figuring things out.
it’s unlikely for anything to be in a perfect balance, so if something doesn’t noticably grow, it’s likely that it’s shrinking (which of course is what kills online communites unless they are already large)
Good ridance! piracy jeopardizes the stability of !Lemmy.world If you want to be a pirate, do stupid illegal shit fine, but don’t drag everyone else with you
You can do it totally anonymously, you just need a server with docker that can’t be linked to you. There are many ways (legal or not) to acquire such server, and afterwards it’s simple.
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