pjwestin, (edited )

People, I’m begging you

Edit: Wait, hang on. I just realized I interacted with this account a few days ago. They told me Obama wasn’t conservative because he didn’t strip gay people of their rights; I pointed out that Obama didn’t support gay marriage until his second term, and that he didn’t actually do anything to legalize gay marriage, a conservative leaning Supreme Court did. They then called me privileged and said they couldn’t address my idiocy (or something along those lines).

Anyway, I think I know what happened with this guy and the, “tankie,” mods.

Cryophilia,

I mean yeah, calling Obama a conservative is worthy of a mental health evaluation at least. If you truly believe that. Which I doubt.

“Democrats and Republicans are equally bad” is at least a tankie-adjacent argument.

FlashMobOfOne,
@FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world avatar

People throw around the term ‘tankie’ like Halloween candy around here, though.

Cryophilia,

Depending on your instance, it’s been Halloween for years

hark,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

Sounds like r/politics is more your jam.

possiblylinux127,

Ok I guess. Lemmy is actually not to bad now that most of its users are normal people. A political sub is always going to be bias.

If you don’t like it just don’t be a part of the community. There is no need to argue with people online. Your mental health will be better anyway.

Cryophilia,

That’s fair but I think we all have a responsibility to fight against authoritarianism, censorship, and the dismantling of democracy.

possiblylinux127,

Yes but arguing on the internet does nothing most of the time

Cryophilia,

Eh. In aggregate I think it does a lot. Being a strong voice pushing back against propaganda helps. Being silent cedes the airwaves to those who wish to manipulate and silence us.

AFC1886VCC,

Waaaaa community mods don’t have same political views as me.

This is the fediverse, go create your own politics community and you can ban “tankies” and enforce your own political views to your hearts content.

Sgt_choke_n_stroke,

putin

tankies

You really are as bright as a box of wet matches.

Let me guess, you’re a centrist.

Cryophilia,

Hi tankies!

possiblylinux127,

Certified Lemmy moment

possiblylinux127,

I think you missed the point.

Nobilmantis,
@Nobilmantis@feddit.it avatar

What you are saying might be true as well but given your uncivil comment history i am pretty sure a mod “being tankie” is not the reason you are silenced in those communities…

Cryophilia,

If a community just wants civility, that’s fair. When they allow tankie incivility but silence anti-tankie, that’s infuriating.

possiblylinux127,

*mildly infuriating

Nobilmantis,
@Nobilmantis@feddit.it avatar

Yeah if incivility is in the rules it should be enforced for everyone.

Sorry to ask but since you keep using that word, what does tankie has to do with putin? Wasn’t it something about the soviet union?

Cryophilia,

Tankies support modern day China and Russia. There’s a veneer of pro-communism but the reality is just anti-Americanism. A lot of tankies pretend that Russia is still a communist state.

All of which would be sad but forgivable. It’s their lying, manipulation, and meddling in other countries’ affairs that prompt the angry response they get.

Essentially, “tankie” = someone who supports anti-American authoritarianism

goferking0,

Obviously now tankie just means removing rule breaking comments

sharkfucker420, (edited )
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

My ideology is the minority for the first time no :(((( how coukd this happen

Im not being supported by the dominant political establishment

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/8b14b3dd-25f3-492c-8649-5226492219c2.jpeg

NOT_RICK,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a huge difference between having an opinion that is unpopular in a community and having your opinion silenced for wrongthink.

possiblylinux127,

That’s why I’m glad we now have a normal community. I was on Lemmy before and it was a totally different place.

I remember asking if everyone on Lemmy if there was a communist free area before I was removed.

Zipitydew,

Nah. Your instance has trash mods.

People shouldn’t get comments removed for saying Russia is the clear bad guy concerning Ukraine. Or that Russia created any number of issues their propaganda attempts to project back on others. If stating objective reality isn’t allowed, .ml is no better than what right-wing assholes have been doing on Reddit since 2015.

sharkfucker420, (edited )
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

I have been critical of russia a number of times even on hexbear and never had anything removed. Its about the way you criticize not the criticism itself

Zipitydew,

That’s good. Maybe since your account is there such criticism is viewed differently.

But that’s not the case for others. And that reality is being shared right now by multiple people in this thread.

Maggoty,

Dude. All you need to do to stop getting comments removed is to stop going for insults as a method of argument. Your modlog would make a Drill Sergeant blush.

Cryophilia,

I get insulted, I insult back.

The problem is the tankie bait trolls. They insult me, I insult back. My post removed, theirs left up. That’s the mildly infuriating tankie bit. If everything was removed, no problem, it’s fair.

maypull,

I don’t see any insults but yours there.

Cryophilia,

Well yeah, it’s my log, you only see my posts

maypull,

I can see the whole exchange from my mastodon accounts

Cryophilia,

Really? I’m on the lemmy browser and it just shows the removed comments, no link or anything

maypull,

mastodon.social/…/112047426325648689

everyone can see who was throwing around insults and xenophobia

Cryophilia,

Xenophobia? Like do you just pull words out of a hat? What?

maypull,

everyone can see how you othered foreigners of russian descent

Cryophilia,

Ah, I think you linked the wrong comment. That was the one where I was saying fascist American nazis tend to do fascist nazi things, not the one where I said tankies should eat shit.

In any case, fuck Putin. Hope his next check to you bounces.

maypull,

everyone can see the whole thread. I don’t know who you think you’re fooling.

possiblylinux127, (edited )

Looks like someone is a conservative. (That’s apparently illegal) Maybe start a conservative community.

Seriously people here think you are being sexist if you say you are a Christian. They don’t seem to realize there own lack of understanding.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

If you aren’t being sexist I don’t think anyone cares what god you believe in.

How is being conservative illegal or are you just trying to claim conservatives are being discriminated against?

possiblylinux127,

Its more of an exaggeration. I’ve just noticed I sometimes people feel they need to criticize religion. Those comments and posts are usually removed so its not something you see often.

I’ve also noticed that some people see Republicans as evil. That’s not a statement that holds a lot of weight by itself but I’ve noticed that many left seem to think people should agree with there liberal views.

My comment isn’t intended to start a fight. Its based on observation.

SatansMaggotyCumFart,

Is it an observation or an exaggeration?

Maggoty,

I’m not seeing that pattern on the modlog for Lemmy world. It’s either all removed you went off the deep end.

Cryophilia,

On the modlog you only see removed comments, right?

Maggoty,

You can click through to see the comment chain for each one.

Cryophilia,

Oh neat, I didn’t realize it was a clickable link

possiblylinux127,

Lemmy world is pretty good in my experience. They let everyone have a voice unless it is hate speech

Maggoty,

Yeah. I have a couple that I think are questionable but it was pretty heated discussions so, meh.

possiblylinux127,

Just don’t be apart of political communities. I left a few communities due to them being overrun with political BS

goferking0,

So you start with this and get surprised it causes you to be banned or the comment deleted??

If Trump wins, I expect to have approximately 12-18 months before they start shutting down dissent on the internet, and I will use EVERY. SINGLE. DAY of it to remind you third party genocide joe fucks that we are all reaping what you have sown. I will push you into the gas chambers ahead of me.

Cryophilia,

Yeah.

Nazis do nazi things. People need to be reminded of that.

AshMan85,

Bet you don’t know what the actual definition of a tankie is lol

hark,
@hark@lemmy.world avatar

Obviously the definition is “people who disagree with me”.

ptz,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

LW is on 0.19 now. Just instance-block .ml and your Lemmy experience will be infinitely better.

skullgiver,
@skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl avatar

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  • Badeendje,
    @Badeendje@lemmy.world avatar

    Any community in .ml is dangerous, got a 3 month ban from asklemmy answering a question. The ban actually proved my point.

    Defederating from .ml for their moderation and idolizing of totalitarian regimes would be better for the rest of lemmy… The people that run that instance are no better than MAGAts.

    mp3,
    @mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

    Blocking instances through your settings will only block posts and communities from these instances, not the users from these instances. You’ll still see their comments in other communities just fine.

    possiblylinux127,

    Would it though? Lemmy[.]ml is not exactly the most popular

    Ignacio, (edited )
    Ignacio avatar

    I was called a loser twice on a lemmy.ml post, by a lemmygrad.ml user, after I pointed out I suffer from mental disorders to justify my comments or my behaviour, and the mod (worldnews, not politics) didn't do anything about it. So fuck .ml and fuck tankies/fascists, including developers.

    Gullible,

    Which politics community? (I’m mostly commenting to check back later)

    Cryophilia,

    All of em. Some worse than others.

    Except for the Nazi ones, I guess, but that’s no better.

    The mild infuriation prompting this post was a shadow ban on .world for calling out a tankie. All my posts removed, all his stayed up.

    Gullible,

    Yeah, there’s one mod over there who seems to be a sympathizer or naive, accepting the first report they receive. A bit frustrating.

    Deceptichum,
    @Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works avatar

    .world, the mod log is posted elsewhere in this thread and it’s just comment after comment of OP hurling abuse at people.

    Ops just a whiney little shit.

    Gullible,

    Just checked and they are, indeed, a crass sort. I don’t necessarily disagree with everything they said buuut I can see why they’d get the day of time out. Modding’s easier sans hostile users.

    Mereo,

    To me, instances are like countries. c/Politics@lemmy.ml is not the same as c/Politics@lemmy.world because lemmy.ml culture and policies are different from lemmy.world. In this case, go to c/Politics@lemmy.world.

    TheSpermWhale,
    @TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world avatar

    I think thats a pretty good way of seeing it

    Bishma, (edited )
    @Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Is this the lemmy.ml politics community? I’ve stopped short at blocking that server, but I don’t sub to communities there any more. Most of those communities already have alts on other servers.

    NOT_RICK,
    @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

    Just stay off of .ml and you’ll have a way better experience. Too much wrongthink policing going on over there to have any meaningful conversations, you just get DAE capitalism bad or TIL everything wrong in the world is because NATO. It’s boring.

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