If Lana Wachowski is executive producer how does that fit with the hypothesis of the last one being bad on purpose to kill the franchise out of desire to not make matrix movies anymore?
Also that guy Goddard has a okay-ish resume, idk. If they leave the existing plot alone and create new stuff within the universe, it may be not terrible?
But also fuck warner and zaslav, who even believes or trust them on anything anymore? First thing that comes to mind is that this must be a ploy to bundle up resurrection as an ongoing loss and claim a bigger tax break.
There are two entire dialogues in the last movie that explicitly say they didn’t want to remake it, and don’t like the style of the time now. It’s really odd to hear another one is coming.
Matrix resurrection is a masterpiece and I loved it so much. Subtext of the film is they were always going to make another to chase a dollar. That’ll always be true
Okay, I’m glad I’m not alone on that. There’s some interesting ideas, but it’s way too artsy, imo. I muscled through, but I don’t think I’ll watch it again.
Sort of? I mean I blame the studios who funded it for that shit. After watching the 4th one if I had to describe it in one word it would have to be “unnecessary”.
The last movie was the original creator basically trying to sabotage the franchise, as was basically stated in the movie several times, and still, our late stage capitalists demand that nostalgia money from by digging up and raping the honored corpse of a brilliant and completed narrative. They won’t get mine.
Still, if the l Cabin in the Woods director has any sense at all, he will attempt a reboot and tell the story through a new lense… if David Zaslav, enemy of art, labor unions, and companies actually providing products/services instead of profit by tax cheats and cheaply made “Reality” garbage lets them.
The android, named B1-66ER, kills its owner, his pets, and a mechanic instructed to deactivate the robot, the first incident of an artificially intelligent machine killing a human. B1-66ER is arrested and put on trial, but justifies the crime as self-defense, stating that it “simply did not want to die”.
I like the one about the runner, and the fact that people can break themselves out of the matrix if they are strong enough. I think they said there was a couple, was the Kid one of them? Give us more stories like that!
Also Matriculated was the first thing to show that the machines can join the humans side, prolly where they got the premise for resurrection.
If you like matriculated, watch the YouTube video I posted in another comment.
But yeah, if you like the premise of the matrix and haven’t seen all of the animatrix shorts, give them a watch.
Ah yes, “self-substantiation.” I also liked how it intentionally added to the mythos of the kid that was nodded to in the movies, sort of a lesson in there is no single path to enlightenment/ascension.
Yes! I knew there was a name for it but I haven’t nerded out on the matrix in a while.
I don’t really wanna write for wb, but a cool idea would be that the matrix patched the ability to take a red or blue pill, so they have to come up with a new way, some kind of Dmt smoking shit that catapults you out of your pod.
Another new way to self-substantiate would be cool. We’ve seen the kid jumping off the roof and the runner running, maybe something like ego death? Massive lsd trip gets you out?
I could see that too, perhaps a plot about a drug that forces either self-substantiation or death.
I think it’s about drastically defying what the system predicted you could do, be it outrunning your own perceived physical limitations, or just as with the jump skill, fully committing to the unreal nature of the world like the kid.
We got a glimpse at how the architect governed the Matrix, and we can clearly see he’s obsessed with pattern prediction and it’s role on system stability, "as you adequately put, the problem is choice"
My pet theory about self-substantiation is that it comes out of a user causing an error of extreme, logic defying, committed choice that could bring down portions of the entire system because everything and everyone is interconnected, leading to emergency expulsion.
This is a tricky one as there should never have been a fourth film (or third. or second) and I’d have usually just gone “nope” and moved on, but Drew Goddard hasn’t put a foot wrong as a director and his writing credits are solid (if we overlook World War Z), so for him to agree to do this suggests he’s got a great idea for the franchise. So I am surprised to say, I’m quietly hopeful about this.
So my ex and I went to the theatres with the intention of having sex during a movie, and we picked out cabin in the woods.
We were the only people there, except for an older guy a couple rows ahead of us.
We started messing around in the beginning, but ended up stopping (kind of) and watching the whole thing. The whole premise was pretty cool, the old gods and shit.
But the matrix?
They should have stopped after the animatrix…
I just watched resurrection for the 2nd time, and holy fuck. The meta shit explaining they made the movie cause it was either them or wb is gonna do it was fuckin stupid. The whole love angle seemed SUPER stretched too…
I almost wonder if it would have been better without any of the original cast.
I also wanna know how much screen time was spent on flashbacks to previous movies.
I can’t wait to ignore abother steaming pile of shit coming out of hollywood.
Trinity and Neo never had any chemistry in any of the movies, so the stories being centered around their unbreakable love always seemed dumb to me. It’s just an extra part of the core story that doesn’t need to be there at all.
I agree. I love the first matrix movie, but if it has one flaw, it’s that cheesy forced love-destiny thing. They were literally acquaintance’s prior to that, friend’s is pushing it, let alone lovers.
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