NASA’s independent study team released its highly anticipated report on UFOs on September 14, 2023.
In part to move beyond the stigma often attached to UFOs, where military pilots fear ridicule or job sanctions if they report them, UFOs are now characterized by the US government as UAPs, or unidentified anomalous phenomena.
Bottom line: The study team found no evidence that reported UAP observations are extraterrestrial.
I'm gonna propose to the alien believers a different explanation of UAPs: they're black projects. Yes all those physics defying things are man made, and they probably have an understanding of physics we don't currently know about in the wider public.
Technology trends exist. We can see them. It's no wonder that every generation's stereotype of unidentified craft always always always mimicked the latest generation of military flight tech. That's what's been true since the inception of the whole thing. It's true today too, thirty years from now we'll get a public look at the crafts they're testing out in the skies today. Be that because they get used or because they become obsolete. Thats how it goes.
So why the hearings in Congress? Because they're black projects. We're talking trillions in this rabbit hole. Congress very much has an urgent want to understand what they military might be keeping from it, vis a vis private contractors. We're talking multiple times the budgets of nation-states and we're getting receipts that are basically "trust me bro"s.
But Congress can't very well tell the truth of all that without undermining the American military, and thereby America itself. So they go along with the same "aliens" reasoning, "uhh yeah, let's go with that, okay", and keep pressing for more information.
Is that crazy? Yeah, you bet. But it's no crazier than believing all that and that there's aliens. Because the alien conspiracy crowd asserts virtually everything I just said, just, with aliens. Aliens aren't necessary for any of it though.
In the history of nations there's never been a more sure-fire way to lose democracy than making an enemy of the military complex propping it up. So Congress ought to be careful too, keep a little plausible deniability for themselves.
One of the first test pilots for developmental jet planes wore a gorilla mask and smoked a cigar. Pilots who reported sightings were told by military doctors that they were crazy, since everyone knows a plane can’t fly without a propeller.
Your right, it is just as plausible. Theres no theoretical physics department in the Pentagon. If they were developing, proving and exploiting new laws of nature the minds responsible would be coming from the top levels of academia. Half the faculty at MIT must be in on it, teaching students, publishing and reviewing papers, developing new technologies, all based on old physics theyve known was incorrect for, what, decades? What a joke it all must be.
I detect sarcasm. Y'all think those same minds weren't participating in any shit? Great minds led to climate change after all. Great minds are behind average rich chumps like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and Jeff Bezos. Great minds enable horrific things throughout history. It wasn't stupid people developing plastics and chemicals through the last century. So let's remove the idea that any of these people are inherently good.
Beyond that, compartmentalized knowledge is kind of the whole schtick of military intelligence. They're good at it. Arguably that's the whole core framework all military hierarchy is built on, otherwise it's just militia. We've built cities in secret before, military bases exist in secret all over the place. And many of those secrets involved quite literally the greatest minds of the century. Hard to keep quiet about bombs though, right? That was going to come to light. What if it weren't a bomb though? What if it could stay quiet?
Over and over and over history shows us great minds faced with the ethical problems of developing weapons of war and what do they do? Arrive at the nearly universally the same conclusions. Bigger weapons mean fewer wars, so they develop them. Archimedes to Oppenheimer, Da Vinci to Einstein. Tesla. Von Braun. Seriously all of them were weapons makers for the same idyllic reasons, "ending war".
But were they wrong? Isn't war much less than it ever was?
I'm a fan of looking to history for answers about our future because human beings - despite all the technological and social changes - really haven't had the time to truly change in even five thousand years. The brains still work largely the same as always, we're just given more tools to work with.
If a private, but not secret agency has access to the physics and can't engineer it, there's a question of why. As much as we'd like to disassociate engineering from discovery, they're linked together. Engineering leads to further observation leads to discovery and vice versa back the other direction. It's entirely possible there's "new physics" at play even if they're only theoretical to the Discovery Channel right now. Who's to say, really?
So while I'm not gonna disagree with you, and you're right there's a difference between engineering technology and physics itself, I still don't really see the distinction as that important to the discussion here.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, after all. We're talking about exactly that level of technology, commonly being called physics-defying by many engineers today. That's magic to common understanding, for all intents and purposes, even if it's possible that we could all eventually understand and demystify it given the education to do so.
Until then? Hard to close doors other than just "do we need this for the story". And aliens don't need to be there, hence my whole line of thinking above. That's just another example of "any secret is the exact secret I want it to be" kind of thinking. See also "everything I don't understand is a communist" or more recently, "everything I don't like is woke". I like to make reference to dinosaurs, because no one ever does. Why not? It could be dinosaurs in those crafts too! There's more evidence for that than aliens, right? We know 100% dinosaurs existed, here. They would've had much much more time to develop technology than we did, eons longer. So again why not? "Because it's absurd." Yep. It is. Every argument against it counts against aliens too.
well considering that christopher mellon went on the record to assert that there is very compelling high resolution satelite images of UAPs I take this as a step in the right direction since they are no longer denying or treating it as a joke. NASA already asserted that there are "metallic spehres" flying all over the world when they shared footage of one.
We don’t know what they are, some of them move unlike any natural or artificial phenomena we know of, there are 200 billion trillion stars, and we can’t explain all of the files we’ve declassified so far that we’ve been secretly researching for almost 100 years and lied about, but - aliens? You guys are bonkers.
Yup. Global Warming is literally burning and flooding people to death, but political leaders and citizens are focussed on UFOs and aliens. Where are the hearings on how the oil industry knew this was happening and covered it up? If you are looking for a conspiracy to hide something huge from the world, that would be a good place to start.
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