demvoter,
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Ukraine got back territory from the Russians they haven’t had since 2014!

https://hachyderm.io/@mariyadelano/110600106594968334

Girlparts,
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https://www.bbc.com/russian/live/news-65849028?

Vladimir Putin made an appeal where he called Prigozhin's rebellion a betrayal and a stab in the back. He did not mention the name of the founder of Wagner PMC

The day before, Prigozhin accused the Russian military leadership of rocket attacks on his Wagner PMC camps in the rear and killing his militants. After Putin's appeal, he said that the president was "deeply mistaken"

There is no independent confirmation of Prigozhin's accusations, the Ministry of Defense denies everything. FSB opened a criminal case on incitement to armed rebellion
Mercenaries from PMC "Wagner" led by Yevgeny
Prigozhin blocked military facilities in Rostov and Voronezh
The Armed Forces of Ukraine launched a missile attack on the occupied Genichesk, from which more than 100 km to the front line

Ghostalmedia,
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Vlad must be pissed that he’s being stressed the fuck out during the 3 day no poop challenge. It’s hard to keep the backdoor sealed when you're stressed out.

rigatti,
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He's Vladimir Putin, not Vladimir Pupin.

SeatBeeSate,

I love how is this the first big meme post reddit migration.

guyman,

Great reddit humor. Totally worthy of 70 upvotes, lol.

metaStatic,

💩Thanks for the poop kind stranger

Girlparts,
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kestrel7,
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For size comparison, Rostov to Elets is about the same distance as Boston to DC, or Marseilles to Paris.

Girlparts,
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iwan2c,

What's up with the big brother messages in Moscow?

lividhen,
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I like the 1984 reference, feels very accurate.

HeartyBeast,
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Just had a quick skim and it looks like all the street webcams in Moscow are down.

Girlparts,
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Huh works for me

TechnoBabble,

I can still see Moscow street cams.

But I'm guessing internet is going down anywhere near PMC positions, since I haven't seen any new wagner footage in a while.

Girlparts,
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https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-66006142

The mayor of Moscow, Sergei Sobyanin, has just put out a statement on Telegram announcing that "a counter-terrorist operation regime has been declared in Moscow" and that Monday will be a "non-working day" to "minimise risks".

Tyson712,

I'd give it 50/50 they actually put up resistance or roll over. You can counter terrorist all you want until the terrorists are seasoned mercenaries with tanks knocking at the door

assembly,

This has to be a pretty legit threat to make the public aware. They usually keep people in the dark until after the fallout from something.

Girlparts,
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roofuskit,
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DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A MACHINE TRANSLATION OF AN UNVERIFIED TELEGRAM POST

Source: PMC "Wagner" can directly subordinate to the President of the Russian Federation - one of the conditions of the deal with Prigozhin.

According to Cooperative sources, during the negotiations between Lukashenka and Yevgeny Prigozhin, a decision was made to directly subordinate the Wagner structures to Vladimir Putin. Mercenaries are no longer required to sign contracts with the Ministry of Defense.

The criminal case against Prigogine will also be dropped.

There is no official confirmation of this information yet.

floofloof,

What is going on? It seems highly unlikely that they will both let bygones be bygones and just get back to business as usual, minus Shoigu. No one has challenged Putin like this before, and many people have been killed for much less. Unless Prigozhin is stupid he must know this. And it seems unlikely Putin was in on this scheme to get rid of the military leadership, since he could already have done that any time.

Was Prigozhin scared off by the reports of Kadyrov’s forces heading his way? Is he just stalling for time now while he tries to figure out how he and Wagner can survive?

roofuskit,
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This entire thing makes Russia and Putin look weak. I don't get why people keep assuming it's some ruse he's in on.

niktemadur,
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Because in a twisted way, russian government is extremely legalistic, so their actions - or what they would ever even contemplate of doing and not doing - is tied up into Byzantine knots.
Because they are medieval in outlook, expressed in their admiration for "shows of strength" and their obsession for "saving face".

It is said that the same document in russian is nearly twice as long as its' translation in English, because of all the adornments and nuances. As I can't get the nuances in the words being exchanged and the commentaries around it, I wonder if what they say and what they mean has more leeway and is more open to interpretation than what we can pick up from here.

TheOlympian,
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If this is true, Prigozhin, Putin, or MoD will be dead within a week. No way this will be sustainable. Prigozhin made himself the defacto #2 and defied the regime without consequences. Putin only got more time in office without civil war. It feels like this is far from over.

roofuskit,
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DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A MACHINE TRANSLATION OF AN UNVERIFIED TELEGRAM POST.

❗️Prigozhin: We are deploying our columns

"We walked less than 200 km from Moscow during this time we did not shed a single drop of blood of our fighters. Now the moment has come when blood can be shed, therefore. Realizing all the responsibility that Russian blood will be shed on one of the sides. We we deploy our columns and leave in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan," Prigozhin's new audio message says.

roofuskit,
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DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A MACHINE TRANSLATION OF AN UNVERIFIED TELEGRAM POST.

The governor of the Rostov region appeared on video for the first time in a day. Vasily Golubev urged local residents not to approach clusters of military equipment and armed people, and also not to leave their homes unnecessarily.

The head of the region, whose capital was occupied by Wagner PMC mercenaries participating in the rebellion, claims that transport, ambulance and utilities are functioning normally.

The Rise publication noticed that in a video message published on Golubev's Telegram channel, he stands against the background of an inverted flag of the Rostov region. According to the science of flags, banners and standards, this means disaster or defeat in war. Otherwise, flying an inverted flag is considered an insult to him.

Girlparts,
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https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1672658370224873474

Prigozhin said to avoid bloodshed he is turning colums around

demvoter,
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Girlparts,
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He and Putin must have made a deal.

meldroc,

I'll bet this deal won't last long. Putin and Prigozhen already sicced armies on each other, so the amount of trust between them is zero.

FrostBolt,
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Agreed. An analyst on CNN was comparing it to the internal fighting of a mafia group. These guys don't like sharing power

niktemadur,
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Or don't like it when one steps in the other's domain, and for a while now they've had an internal conflict of interests, which made overstepping inevitable.

niktemadur,
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The itchy paranoid psycho will definitely not be at rest until the threat of the other itchy paranoid psycho is gone.

Lightninhopkins,

I have zero faith in a deal between the two, unless this was all staged which seems unlikely. There is no way they can share power.

Girlparts,
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Rostov livestream

https://m.twitch.tv/Feshiar_

Girlparts,
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https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1672654091963576320

This would align with Russian telegram reports that the Wagner convoy heading to Moscow has stopped. No confirmation from Wagner sources.

roofuskit,
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DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A MACHINE TRANSLATION OF AN UNVERIFIED TELEGRAM POST.

⚡️⚡⚡️ Message from the press service of the President of the Republic of Belarus.

This morning, Russian President Vladimir Putin briefed his Belarusian counterpart on the situation in southern Russia with the private military company Wagner. The heads of state agreed on joint actions.
As a follow-up to the agreements, the President of Belarus, having additionally specified the situation through his own channels, and in agreement with the President of Russia, held talks with the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin.
Negotiations continued throughout the day. As a result, they came to agreements on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloody massacre on the territory of Russia. Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the proposal of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed persons of the Wagner company on the territory of Russia and take further steps to de-escalate tensions.
At the moment, on the table is an absolutely profitable and acceptable option for solving the situation, with security guarantees for the Wagner PMC fighters.
As previously reported, also during today, the President of Belarus held two meetings with the power bloc of the country on this situation.

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