In audio released Friday evening, senators and representatives from Ohio and Michigan revealed the "endgame" is to ban transgender care "for everyone."
If we are going to stop this for anyone under 18, why not apply it for anyone over 18? It’s harmful across the board, and that’s something we need to take into consideration in terms of the endgame."
Wow.
Representative Click then responded, "That’s a very smart thought there. I think what we know legislatively is we have to take small bites.”
This is why they call everything a slippery slope. Projection.
Yes, in this case it is intentional. That doesn't mean every slippery slope is intentional, because they can be accidental or intentional. A slippery slope does not imply being accidental, which is what I was responding to.
The slippery slope can easily be unintentional, like the fear that giving something up will just naturally lead to other things being given up as a logical extension of the first thing. That is why slippery slopes are often described when making exemptions for certain rights. It is not that someone is intentionally going to expand the exemptions, but that exemptions tend to lead to more and more exemptions as a slippery slope.
This one is intentional. Some slippery slopes are intentional and some are accidental. Intent does not matter.
Someone can intentionally trick someone onto a slippery slope and grease it up to make the slide faster, like Republicans are doing right now with undermining abortion and LBGTQ+ rights while claiming it isn't a slippery slope.
Where do you get the idea that a slippery slope must be unintentional?
Is someone slipping on a banana peel unintentional if someone drops the peel in front of them? Do you think you might be taking the word 'slippery' a little too literally?
Republicans aren’t tricking us into falling down a slippery slope either, we’re just being dragged down the stairs by our hair and they’re marching down with us. There’s no slipping.
Another important factor of a slippery slope: once you start to slip you can’t easily stop. That’s not what this is at all. Stopping would be really easy if we weren’t being forced down this path.
I’d say it’s more the dog that caught the car. They need trans people to exist so they can whip their base up into a panic over trans people existing. Total victory, then, means they need to move on to a new target to hate. It’s hate in and of itself that matters to them, hate is more than a necessary evil, it’s the ultimate object of their desire.
We already have slavery and it’s working quite nicely. We just renamed them “illegal immigrants”.
I think people get hung up thinking slaves were cost-free to the slaveholders. Of course they weren’t! Just like any livestock, you gotta feed and shelter them, breed them, take care of the offspring until they become productive, etc.
The current slave system is brilliant! Pay 'em some change, so no one can call them slaves, and let them figure out all the items above. If anyone comes along and says maybe we should provide… STFU socialist! You trying to take MY money and give it to people breaking the law?!
It gets better! Now we can use fear of these people to get votes, keep in power. (Fuck it, I’m exhausted, you all know where I’m going with this.)
No. This is a bad take. Even though wage slavery bucks, no illegal immigrant is their employer’s property. You already have slavery in the US and it’s all the convicts being leased to companies: 13th Amendment, babies!
Being a modern so-called “wage slave” sucks, no doubt. But equating it to actual, literal slavery belittles what those people actually went through to a disgusting degree. No one today can whip you if they feel like it. No one today can separate you from your spouse and children, selling them to some random asshole two states over, never to be seen again. If you decided to try to make it on your own and move, no one can sue to have you brought back to your workplace in a cage. If you break your leg, no one can shoot you in the head like you’re a useless animal.
The closest thing to slaves we have today are convicts. There’s a whole different discussion to be had there about how immoral it is to use prison as a punishment instead of rehabilitation, allowing a court to take away someone’s rights, exploiting time behind bars for labor, the incentive that provides for pronouncing people guilty, and removing felons’ rights to vote. But poor wage workers are NOT slaves.
Not sure if you’re ignorant to reality or what. Your comparison falls flat and looks childish because the US still has actual slaves. Not metaphorically, not hyperbolically, but actual, literal slaves.
The 13th amendment banned slavery EXCEPT as punishment for a crime. And hoo-boy has the US taken that to heart. One of the reasons we have more of our population imprisoned than any other country is we use prisoners as slave labor. Actual, literal, slave labor.
Michigan isn’t red. And don’t fucking kill yourself. I’m an old cis white dude, and if I can help fight for your rights, the least you can do is stick around to enjoy them, right?
I’m terrible at pep talks but just don’t fucking kill yourself. There is beauty in the world you have yet to experience, and you make the world a more wondrous and beautiful place just by existing.
If I manage to pay off my trailer before they issue my death sentence I’ll try to move, but if I run out of time I’m not going to try and thread that needle. I’ll just make sure it counts.
I think it might just be time to move bud. You’re in an escapesble situation. You don’t HAVE to stay and listen to their bullshit. You’re much much better than they are. Keep positive thoughts and you WILL get through it!
I’m still paying off my trailer, I can’t just move without destroying my life anyway. My resume is unimpressive, I’m going into my mid 30s, I’d just be condemning myself to a life in homeless poverty.
Our people have endured worse. They destroy our homes and livelihoods and push us to crime and professions of desperation. And yet we persist. From the Molly houses to the prostitute priestesses we have endured throughout history. And no law will stand between us and ourselves.
Well, at first, yes, but when they’re done with them there’s communists, black folk, the disabled, intellectuals, anyone in the political opposition, nuns… They have a whole agenda for us!
Oh man, I hope they do! What am I going to do with myself in the meantime? Just knowing that there’s a slight chance that someone might remove my penis and replace it with a vagina and then give me boobs… It’s too much for me. We must prevent anyone from trying! That way they won’t do it to me!
Actually, what about two penises? That’s like double macho! Ok let’s hope they block male to female and female to male… But male to really macho male, that’s gotta stay!
Let’s see if the population complains about exceptions such as removal due to cancer and such. Maybe toss the doctors in jail for removing boobs that have cancer? And specifically the law should say boobs because that’s more funny. And cruel. We are Republicans! God damn it! In God damn we truss… well it’s a sort of truss, it’s a cross ❌ truss!
Yes it’s all sarcasm and confusing non language. It makes my brains happy.
LOL! I wish I had a big penis. But two or more would be awesome. Just hopefully Texas doesn’t shut that door down just when science is working on the keys to living longer and DNA enhancements. I mean I don’t live in Texas but it must be awful for those who do… So just trying to help. I’ll announce my double penis when it comes up.
Wait was this a thing? Because I fuck as hell am not going to accept them taking away people’s right to replace my dick with a vagina and a nice set of tits. I’d be willing to go to war over that!
Isn’t this literally apart of Nikki Hailey’s campaign?
And if this goes as well as their war on Gay Marriage, it ends when a Right Wing Leaning Supreme Court gives us Trans-Inclusive Single Payer Healthcare and then they go after the next “Freak of the Week”, probably furries since New Hampshire’s already making legislation agianst them.
good, maybe then there’ll be less people making irreversible and unchangeable modifications to themselves as well as influencing others to do the same (and yes, puberty blockers are irreversible, puberty isn’t something you can just decide to shift over a few years into your 20’s, and on top of that it is neither ethical to traumatise a child using them)
People should be allowed the option to make mistakes, if they are unfortunate enough to choose incorrectly. For instance, as when your parents created you.
false, people should be guided away from wrong in any instance, to not do so is to create additional human suffering while knowing that you sat back and let it happen, now i begin to realise why you all seem so fucked in the head :)
Who are you to decide whether it’s the right choice? You can’t make that choice for other people. You have no right to tell them what they can and can’t do, and they have to find out for themselves. And what you said about the puberty blockers goes both ways–if someone can’t go through the procedure on time, not only will they be left wondering their entire life, but they’ll also know that it was your fault for telling them they couldn’t. You don’t get to do that.
because it’s a moral debasement which causes insanity among the people who take part in it, there’s a reason why trans people have a coin-flip chance of hating themselves so hard that they end themselves, the writing is on the wall and i prefer to save people from debasing themselves
moral debasement judged by a logical view on the world, i feel a need to save people from their poor actions because some people can’t see themselves falling down holes they dig, this being a large one perpetuated by the squalor which is modern society, my right to interfere with peoples choices is also due to the previous reasoning of people not knowing how they harm themselves, all you need to do is understand the basic concept of the human body being developed over one of two expectations of hormonal production (with anything inbetween being an exception, incredibly rare, and a genetic mishap), capisce? :)
your morals are wrong, mine are based upon the truth that emanates from natural law and truth-based concepts, our morals are not the same and therefore you have no justification to :)
your morals are wrong because they assume humans dictate moral values, which is false, the natural laws i base my truth on are (for the relevance of this topic) that the human biology is a set base which genes modify (gender being a part of the base, unchanging, and if interrupted, leads to insanity which is visible in statistics and behaviour of the affected), the rights i have to impose my morals are based on the fact that i am correct due to abiding by natural law, and others are unable to impose other morals upon mine due to the fact that differences are inherently against natural order due to this
This is pretty obvious, but being constantly told by society you’re insane, an abomination, a predator, etc., does tend to make people hate themselves, yes. It’s a wild concept, I know.
being told the truth shouldn’t influence how you think about yourself, it should be something that you can either dismiss as false or accept as true (and change), that seems like an issue entirely caused by people being unable to understand that people don’t like what is shoved into the faces of others (and one of the rare times i do agree to a degree with society), i am someone who isn’t at peace with society or it’s concepts yet i receive less shit from people openly because i know how to regulate myself and not associate with a group known for being creeps and full of detestable people, people who choose to debase themselves should expect to be debased by others :)
pro tip: using proper grammar doesn’t make you any less wrong :)
i’m a prophet in comparison to someone who thinks that free-will is the basis of morals, you either get to see the truth when it’s too late or be blinded by it entirely, i may suggest to you, start considering the fact that the world doesn’t revolve around make-believe ideas of “human morals”, rather there are laws imposed by society and groups on themselves that defy nature :)
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