hakunawazo,

It still whips the llamas ass on one of my machines.

dumbass,
@dumbass@leminal.space avatar

Every so often I download Winamp just to hear that intro, takes me back to being a kid everytime.

I know it’s probably on YouTube, but it’s not the same when it’s not playing through Winamp.

Nioxic,

winamp can play online stuff too

AND offline stuff

and it has skins

and its free

and it has no ads

Jarix,

Aside from eminem and robbie whoever, i definitely have a playlist on winamp on my computer right now with those exact songs in it

Edit: replied to completely wrong comment, soz

drasglaf,
@drasglaf@sh.itjust.works avatar

I was still using Milkdrop 2 visualizations on Foobar until I stopped using Windows a couple of years ago. If anyone knows how to use Milkdrop with MPD on Linux, you’d make me very happy.

DABDA,

Maybe some part of github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectm would work for that? I had milkdrop visualizations working on an osmc [Kodi] install on a Raspberry Pi so I’d assume there must be a way.

drasglaf,
@drasglaf@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’ll give it a try, thanks.

DoucheBagMcSwag, (edited )

Fuckin hell I can feel this in my bones

nobleshift,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Still use it to this day on the Win laptops. Zero issues in 20 years. (v5665), and using XMMS2 on the Nix boxen.

MystikIncarnate,

Back in my day, I had an old computer I stuffed under my desk that I installed Linux on. It’s only job was to connect to a cifs share where I kept my (totally legally obtained) music, and play it using xmms2.

I did that so I could reduce the fairly minor load that winamp would put on my system while gaming. I had my PC and this music box both connected to a small mixer where I plugged in my headphones. So I could listen to whatever I wanted and had a dedicated screen and keyboard to control xmms2, so I didn’t have to alt-tab my gaming computer when I wanted to change tracks. Between the convenience of the control and the small benefit I got while using my computer, it was a nice setup that lasted me a long time I eventually stopped using it when I moved one time, I just didn’t bother to set it back up, and I eventually found that all the sliders in my mixer were messed up. From lack of use.

I’m sad to hear that xmms2 also had a similar problem of being more or less ignored and falling into disrepair. It was a good alternative to winamp on my desktop. Everything was very very similar, so it was very easy to swap between them.

I also similarly stopped using winamp, because reasons. I suppose the go to music player is now foobar2000.

reverendsteveii,

27 years later, it still really whips the llama’s ass

pete_the_cat,

27 years later

You stop that right now!

sir_pronoun,

Holy Fuck that playlist makes me want to get drunk like only a teenager at a pool party could

Jarix,

Not that I was (much obliged to lets just forget present tense exists and is a thing) popular enough to go to pool parties let alone get drunk at one,

But aside from eminem and robbie whoever, i definitely have a playlist on winamp on my computer at this moment with those exact songs in it. It was probably created when i was a teenager lol

lugal,

But my dreams, they aren’t as empty

IsThisAnAI,

Finding a decent copy of music was in no way “simpler” than Spotify/YT.

coaxil,

Spotify sure isn’t providing a sonically decent copy today though.

IsThisAnAI,

Not the point now what I suggested but

Nobody but niche users care. It’s good enough for 98% of users and their speaker quality.

In fact they are out there in droves buying shitty quality records for the warmth introduced by the format.

wjrii,

They aren’t cut off in the middle, the wrong song, labeled with the wrong artist, a “rip” from somebody with a microphone and FM radio, corporate honeypots, or literal viruses.

Kids these days… 🤣

OfficerBribe,

At least now it is pretty simple. Not sure about Spotify, but you can download exact audio files Deezer has. That’s my favorite method unless Deezer has a bad remasters of older albums, then I fall back to Soulseek to do some hunting of better version.

IsThisAnAI,

None of that is more simple than clicking a link and having everything on all of your devices.

I’m not saying Spotify is the end all. They have a lot of terrible shit. But none of the torrent/usenet based shit or open source crap is easier to use. Nobody is going to secondary sources on Spotify for bad remasters. You are handwaving away the pain in the ass part.

OfficerBribe,

Obviously it’s not more simple and never will be, but at this point pirating music is as simple as it was using ITunes

IsThisAnAI,

How many people you know using iTunes for music? The apple folks I know are streaming from Apple music.

OfficerBribe,

Nobody, everyone is streaming since it is more convenient. All I was saying is that getting local music is also more convenient now.

octopus_ink,

Depends how far back you go maybe? I remember being able to suss out pretty reliable rips on usenet in the 97-98 timeframe really easily through the alt.binaries groups, and eventually on tpb without too much trouble. On top of that, FLAC just a smidge later.

IsThisAnAI,

Look I used a lot of Usenet, it had a lot of benefits, but take a real close look at yourself in the mirror when you ask yourself this.

Did you just suggest that Usenet is simpler than Spotify? Usenet is great for a lot of reasons, but simplicity is not one of them.

octopus_ink,

I see your point, but piracy has at all times provided me the music I wanted with the portability I wanted with the quality of files I have wanted.

I guess it’s a matter of perspective.

Is there a simple way for Spotify to give me high quality files that I can play offline or host myself with no DRM? (Maybe the answer is yes, but I haven’t had that impression.)

That’s been my criteria for listening to music pretty much since mp3s came into existence.

I can’t argue with you very hard though - if the goal is just “something that lets me play music” then I suppose spotify is simpler.

GregorGizeh,

I recently began de-corpoing my life, and spotify is my most recent cancellation after I was a premium subscriber since soon after its launch.

Took a bit of effort to convert my library, but I found a useful app to automate the process. And now I have my library back, offline and on my devices forever and for free.

It’s actually kind of empowering, reclaiming your life from subscription hell and corporate voyeurism.

BluesF,

Dude what is the app?? I’ve been looking for exactly this.

GregorGizeh,
BluesF,

Amazing thank you!

octopus_ink,

After you’ve done so, if you have interest in hosting your own music server, have a look at Navidrome.

BluesF,

I was wondering if there was some way to do exactly that earlier - excellent & many thanks friend

octopus_ink,

You got it. Come back to me if you have a hard time finding a good android client. There are a lot of mediocre ones. For IOS I don’t know…

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

This is one of those things that I dream of doing one of these days. I’d love to have a massive media library stored locally, so that I’m not chained to streaming services.

Jarix,

I was prepared for that to go the other way.

“…Spotify fucks over artists”

*"This is one of those things that I dream of doing one of these days"

  • someone from the internet"*
The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t tell me you’ve never dreamed of being an entertainment industry leech!

NaibofTabr,

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is today.

Also, Amazon Music sells DRM-free MP3 files, if you don’t feel like sailing.

reev,

Or just buy on Bandcamp if the artist is on there. Support artists really directly (they get 85-90% of what you pay for an item) and you usually get a royalty free lossless download as well as subscription-less streaming.

Hope recent dealings doesn’t fuck up this absolute gem of a site.

antidote101,

“subscription hell and corporate voyeurism”

For me, this is just a place I knew to never go. The writing was on the wall when Warcraft 2/3 became World of Warcraft, one of the first subscription based game.

I’d already been pirating software, music, and games by then and just, stayed on that path. Never so much as used Netflix or Spotify.

Imgonnatrythis,

Just today I was listening to a Tidal Playlist amongst friends and the whole thing seized up and just stopped playing music all together when it ran into a song on the Playlist that apparently Tidal lost the rights to. Really frustrating when your music library is in flux at the whim of corporate dealings.

PhilipJFryJr,

Do you mind sharing any details on your process / tools?

GregorGizeh,

I did a bit of web searching and found spotDL on github, you can give it Spotify playlists to convert and it will search them on YouTube/YouTube music, and output them as local files.

Includes metadata and can output in different formats too. It works great about 99% of the time, though you sometimes need to search manually for individual songs it couldn’t match somehow. But that were about a dozen tracks out of over 4k for me.

If you are interested in the other things I did/found aside from music feel free to ask

PhilipJFryJr,

Thanks for sharing!

dditty,

Is the quality of the YouTube rips good?

vaquedoso,

I imagine it’s not the best, but Spotify’s isn’t great either

GregorGizeh,

I’m not an audiophile or anything, but on my in ears it sounds fine to me. Though I only made mp3s so far, but iirc it can do flac too. I’d imagine those have better quality

nobleshift,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

Not to mention Spotify fucks over artists.

HexesofVexes,

getwacup.com

I mean, it lets me use my old winamp themes…

Pilferjinx,

Audacious is a good spiritual successor.

Jarix,

Meh they surprised us and released a new version of window like a year or 2 ago if you really wanna use the real thing.

thanks_shakey_snake,

Wac me up

WAC ME UP INSIDE

aeronmelon,

I crossed the streams and made a Spotify playlist of the playlist seen in this photo of WinAMP:

open.spotify.com/playlist/0do6Ech8s3etvYUteF321m?…

disguy_ovahea,

Egon, you said crossing the streams was bad.

themeatbridge,

If you weren’t staring at a zooming vortex visualization while high on shrooms, you were missing out.

aeronmelon,

I was staring at it completely sober. I think it still produced the same effect.

shuzuko,

Definitely did. Dad was a stoner, I was too young to get stoned, we both sat and watched it for ages while dad shared his favorite tunes with me. Ah, good times.

GregorGizeh,

I really missed those, i only recently discovered vlc still has them. Was a little nostalgia trip

Agrivar,

vlc still has them

Hoooly shit! I was today years old when I learned of this - thank you, internet stranger.

nobleshift,
@nobleshift@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve got 30+ meg of Milkdrop presets. You don’t even need the shrooms anymore.

sverit,

“Geiss” was the shit!

themeatbridge,

I was a fan of Goom.

henfredemars,

We used to own our music!

Totally didn’t download all of it from LimeWire.

stevedidwhat_infosec,

I miss when you could buy CDs and rip them to your computer so if your shitty mp3 died, you could just move everything on there.

Degrees of freedom revoked

Poutinetown,

What’s stopping you from doing that now?

stevedidwhat_infosec,

DRM protection on music discs, and general distrust of “cracking” software due to my ignorance in The Scene as it stands today.

kamiheku,

DRM protection on music discs

Unless I’m mistaken, this hasn’t really been a thing for like 15 years.

stevedidwhat_infosec,

Interesting, thanks for sharing

KISSmyOSFeddit,

Seriously. Everyone complains about how it was so much better back then, when you owned your music on physical media.

Meanwhile, the choice of music available to buy on CD’s (and even LP’s) has never been greater than today.
Plus, you can easily download whatever you want from any streaming service and burn your own CD’s (but please don’t do that, it violates the TOS and copyright!)

jqubed,
@jqubed@lemmy.world avatar

Or you can buy DRM-free music files at higher quality than was ever available on physical media outside of niche formats that were never widely adopted. Costs are not outrageous and you can listen to them however you like on whatever device you like, and the artists actually get paid and there’s no question of legality.

Poutinetown,

Yeah you can literally buy flac instead of relying on CDs to get lossless quality. Also recording these days is so much better, you could easily get a lot of good remastered version of your favorite songs now.

Rubanski,

Or go to the library, rent the CDs, rip them, and return them. Good times

frezik,

I bought a CD of Green Day’s “American Idiot” and tried to rip it. The version still sold these days has some kind of copy protection on it that gives rippers fits (which isn’t very punk rock of them). Tried a few different things, and then gave up and downloaded somebody else’s flac rip.

uis,

Did you try to rip it on linux?

frezik,

Yes, that’s what I tried first. There’s a Windows ripper that some people had success with, but didn’t work for me.

uis,

And it didn’t work? Wierd. Was it mount and copy as files or dding without mounting? Did vlc play cd?

jadero,

You still can. I do it all the time.

It’s entirely possible that I’ve missed more recent legislation, so take this with a grain of salt. Canada has a “blank media tax” courtesy of the record lobby back in the recording tape days. There was much pushback from consumers when that fee was applied to things like video tapes, recordable CDs, hard drives, etc, but still exists as far as I know.

The recording industry was pushing for laws more in line with other jurisdictions, primarily the US. The government was open to it, but would then abolish the fees on blank media. Industry backed down because they get more from that fee distribution than they would ever get by having more restrictions. Of course, that doesn’t stop them from trying to shame us or blow smoke up our asses.

That means we are already paying a licence fee allowing us to copy recorded or broadcast material for personal use. “Personal use” is defined by what it’s not: rebroadcast, playing for the general public, and reselling. Thus, making a strictly personal copy is fine, as is making a copy for a friend, copying from an original you’ve borrowed (from a friend or from the library), recording legal broadcasts (like from radio, etc), and recording concerts unless the terms of admission expressly forbid it, etc.

themeatbridge,

DAE had that one copy of a song that everyone shared with a glitch during the second verse, and now you find it jarring to hear the song without that artifact.

RagnarokOnline,

100%! There’s a whole second breakdown in Jamiroquia’s Virtual Insanity that I never knew about.

frezik,

I have an old copy of “American Pie” from Napster just like that. Couple little glitches at the start that gave me a twitch for years if I didn’t hear it.

It’s also what I tell people who like the sound of vinyl. The pops and hisses of vinyl are objectively wrong, but you can get subjectively used to hearing things a certain way. It’s not better, it’s just what you have always done.

Even that all said, I do like listening to vinyl because the whole process of listening to it is very deliberate. Like I’m preparing for an event and this is what I’ll be doing for the evening.

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

winamp Winamp WINAMP!

It Really Whips The Lamas Ass!

pete_the_cat,

Llama noise

FiniteBanjo,

“Damn Son, Where’d You Find This.mp3”

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