Reddit has permanently suspended my account for supporting Lemmy.

I have been supporting Lemmy recently a lot and made posts about Lemmy that got big reach. Today, sadly the reddit account through which, I moderated a lot of subs and spent time on, comes to an end. The reason was because I spammed according to reddit, but the reality is that they have censored me because I was hurting Reddit.

Asking multiple third-party app devs consider Lemmy + Made the same post here as well

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/89d666d7-8fca-40eb-b19b-81940a8e6bcb.png

I never thought this would happen, not that I didn't completely expect it (but maybe not this soon and sudden), after all Reddit is known for censorship, and the fact that Reddit admins have absolute power over this website makes this believable. But part of me, misses that reddit account, it has been special to me, as I've spent countless of hours spending my personal time to moderate and improve communities that helped Reddit thrive. I moderated as many subs as over 25, many of them had atleast over 1k people, some as many as 200k if not more.

Before this happened, suspiciously, they banned r/LemmyMigration today early morning,

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/45425a09-66ca-4e7c-9979-42041262614c.jpeg

it remained banned for a few hours and returned back to normal (not weird at all). I thought that was a mistake, as the sub was back to normal unbanned, but it seems like the Reddit admins realized if they banned my sub, that would prove how they censor it, it can work against them. Now, it seems like they have realized that bringing my account down would be more effective, and stop me from possibly sharing how they censored my sub on other subs for example.

It's a shame, and part of me is sad, everything I worked hard for was taken away by them all of a sudden. I wanted to bring some of my communities here, now everything is gone, and it feels more like starting from scratch (Or discuss with mods I am still in contact with, and get help to bring communities I was planning on bring here, but it certainly makes things harder, not giving up anyways, especially not after this).

BTW I have filled an appeal, but I don't expect this to be reversed, this was planned by the Reddit admins and all they have to do is ignore my appeal, there is nothing more I can do to get my account back, and they just got rid of someone who was pinpointing some of their biggest flaws and potentially dangering their platform's dominance in the "aggregation and discussion platforms" market.

A note to all refugees and ex-redditors here, or those who are planning to join Lemmy - See the power a centralized corporation like Reddit holds. With a decentralized alternative like Lemmy, you can host your own instance or join another one if you get censored, with lemmy, we can put more power back in the hands of the people.

I don't have much else to say, moving on I will have to work with mods left that I do know through external platforms like Discord and try to bring some communities here. I hope this does not happen to any other moderator who have spend countless of hours helping Reddit in-directly like I did, somehow escaping such a suspension.

EDIT: There is some controversy in the comments if I actually spammed, I don't think I spammed at all, I only made a post on r/ApolloApp, it became a hit so I cross-posted it to other third-party app subs, just so that it can hopefully reach out to the respective developers for them to possibly consider Lemmy in the wake of new reddit API changes.

I was also certainly not the only one mentioning alternatives like Lemmy on the r/Apolloapp or any other third-party app sub, in-fact many people were mentioning alternatives, though I was banned, also my community r/LemmyMigration as mentioned above was called spam (and was temporarily banned, but was weirdly brought back up just to put my account down later today afternoon) when it only had 2 posts today morning. To me, "spam" seems like it is only used as a cover up by Reddit, the real reason is that my posts, just like r/LemmyMigration, was about Lemmy, a competition to Reddit.

Also if it was really spam, as soon as I cross-posted my post from r/apolloapp to the other subs, the mods would have removed it well before they got a lot of attention, why didn't they?

EDIT 2: A user called @danke has been spreading misinformation about me in the comments:

Just as you did on your newly created reddit alt, you’re painting this lie that you were banned for your tiny no-name subreddit and not for spamming this garbage on 11 different mobile app subreddits in quick succession. It’s truly like clockwork for sitebanned users to lie and omit these massive details.

This is a blatant lie, I mentioned about the cross-posts right IN THIS post: "Asking multiple third-party app devs consider Lemmy + Made the same post here as well"

As you can see, I made the post right here and on reddit, i never missed any details.

seirim,
@seirim@lemmy.ml avatar

Hmm, can I share this story on Reddit? Will try

vulfneck,
Archit,

Appreciate you guys, seriously.

GuyDudeman,
@GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml avatar

This means they're scared. It means we're winning.

Archit,

You are right, that's a great way of looking at this. They are indeed scared, desperate, pathetically desperate.

Kichae,

Meh. It might just mean they're annoyed and forward thinking. Better to stop talk of this early before it becomes something they actually need to be afraid of.

Tretiak,

... and forward thinking.

Let me go ahead and stop you right there.

dessalines,
GuyDudeman,
@GuyDudeman@lemmy.ml avatar

LOL!

(btw, the gif isn't showing up in your comment. I had to go to source and copy/paste the url of the file)

dessalines,

Damnit lol. I'll just post the link.

Boobajoob,

That sucks dude. Fuck Reddit

AnEilifintChorcra,

Pretty sure Reddit can't ban people for promoting/linking to competitors sites as there is EU regulations in place to prevent this.

This issue was raised when Twitter tried to stop people from linking to their Mastodon accounts. Twitter put the policy in place and then quietly removed it soon after.

If you really believe that you were banned for promoting Lemmy then you should mention this in your appeal but as others have mentioned it seems like the issue was spam.

And sure maybe they were waiting for any reason they could get to ban you because you were promoting Lemmy and they got you on spam, always gotta read the contract/TOS to make sure the other party doesn't get you on a technicality

Tretiak,

If you really believe that you were banned for promoting Lemmy then you should mention this in your appeal but as others have mentioned it seems like the issue was spam.

And that's precisely why the issue is going to be 'spam', even when it isn't. Because if you can't get away with stating the real reason the ban went into effect, you're going to do it under the auspice of something that has a degree of plausible deniability. I'm far less willing to give Reddit the charitable benefit of the doubt on this, seeing the shear amount of ridiculous bans that have been given out to people. But who knows, it's entirely possible it could've been spam.

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  • Archit,

    I will :)

    cavemeat,

    Today I'm gonna run one of those edit and delete scripts for reddit accounts, and I want my last message to be one promoting this place as a viable alternative :).

    Skimmer5728,

    fuck reddit. lemmy ftw!

    lvxferre, (edited )
    @lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

    I don't trust the reason for your ban completely, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on this.

    That's shitty and I've been in your shoes (being banned on the shittiest way*), but on a lighter side it shows that promoting Lemmy there has an effect!

    I think that "we" (i.e. people who are trying to convince people to migrate) should be doing this harder. Like, mentioning that you've been using Lemmy and other instances in the app subreddits, encouraging people to migrate, highlight other issues that happened and will happen with Reddit, this kind of stuff. A lot of us will be banned under shitty excuses... but frankly? Consider it as a badge.

    • What pissed me in that case wasn't even the ban, but which accounts were banned. They banned all my accounts, regardless of recent activity, except the one that I used for mod duties. "We don't want you, but we still want your free worker, you sucker" doesn't work for me. (I don't regret dropping the mod duties on the spot then.)
    Archit, (edited )

    At this point I am afraid even mentioning Lemmy in a couple of subs will lead Reddit in masking you as spammer, I would have taken it easy even if one of the subs I cross-posted to removed it as spam (things were dead silent, and suddenly a full account suspension comes in, not to mention my sub being banned briefly that is also about Lemmy prior to that), so I don't think this is because they actually look at this as spam, but a convenient way to mask me when they actually censored me and my sub that was growing.

    Tretiak, (edited )

    That's why it's all the more worthwhile to just cut the cord already and jump ship. If you aren't allowed to state your personal endorsement of something or offer up alternative platforms for discussion, that's something 'else', masquerading as the removal of a spammer. Spamming is in the delivery of the content. Not in proposing something for other people to investigate. I don't have a problem leaning on the side of censorship on this. Especially if your style of post is similar to what you've displayed here on this thread. If not though, then your bad was probably justified.

    lvxferre,
    @lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

    When Reddit doesn't want you to do something, you don't stop doing it; you do it in a smarter way.

    Odds are that you triggered Reddit's automatic detection of spam, and they potentially added "lemmy" to the "spam links"; but they have no way to detect something like "lem [remove this] my dot ml" or "that Fediverse platform starting with "l" and ending with "emmy"", or stuff like this. Also, never copy and paste text across communities, as this is rather suspicious activity.

    skeletorsass,

    This will also make Lemmy look cool and banned to reddit peoples, and they will want to see what it is and why reddit does not want them to know about it.

    Tretiak,

    When Reddit doesn’t want you to do something, you don’t stop doing it; you do it in a smarter way.

    Lol, r/PoliticalCompassMemes was Exhibit A when it came to innovating ways to get around this.

    stanleytweedle,

    It'd be fun to have Lemmy 'flair' for people banned from Reddit for promoting Lemmy.

    sexy_peach,

    Damn, that's some weak shit on their parts. Also temporarily banning LemmyMigration? LMAO

    const_void,

    Reddit is trash. Reddit admins are trash.

    bruhsoulz,

    i got banned from my fav game's sub (gta online) for saying fuck islam cus many casino features are unavailable for me, even the -free- daily casino wheel spin... their reasoning was "racism". im an arab...

    cavemeat,

    White people say the darnest things when they think they're on the moral high ground.

    Lowey,

    So, this might or might not provoke the Streisand effect? At either case it's important to post links to your alternative accounts on different platforms on your bio and put it in archive.org + archive.today for ban reasons. Anyone on any platform can get banned, it's important to have a plan for that. Hope you can recover at least partial/full of what was banned.

    Kichae,

    I'm really sorry to hear about this. This is really sad and pathetic on Reddit's part.

    Kichae,

    Mostly unrelated, but the actual discussion in the comments on that post are... yeesh. Why do discussions about freeze peach so quickly degrade into right-wing talking points?

    cavemeat,

    A lot of people who are freeze peach absolutists are nazis, that's why they want the ability to say whatever they want in the first place :/

    scoobford,

    Nobody has only terrible ideas. The original Nazis got Hugo Boss to design their uniforms after all, and that turned out well.

    The rest of it though...woof.

    JustEnoughDucks,

    Some of the tech was very good too. But all forms of nazis still deserve to be beat down

    salarua,
    @salarua@sopuli.xyz avatar

    because the only defense of their views is that they're not literally illegal to express

    EgyptUrnash,

    hahaha holy shit

    I wonder if "cross-posting about /r/LemmyMigration to a bunch of other subs" triggered an automatic spam filter in a way that a bunch of different people saying "hey have you heard about Lemmy" does not. There's a certain level of slack I'm willing to cut for people trying to moderate something as huge as Reddit or Twitter or whatever; it's what happens in the next few days that's really going to be worth reacting to.

    Good luck with the appeal. <3

    Archit,

    Yeah, my appeal has been nothing but ignored, as if it never existed, not even a single reply from them backing their decision.

    EgyptUrnash,

    That AMA tomorrow with the CEO is gonna be a heck of a thing, that’s for sure.

    lvxferre,
    @lvxferre@lemmy.ml avatar

    Shameless promotion of my new community: SNOOcalypse. I created it so people can discuss Reddit's downfall, as it's kind of off-topic for /c/opensource, and plus I want to see some activity coming from people who want to get rid of Reddit.

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