lemmyreader,

I do like the solution of the developer. Share the source code for those who want to compile and let those who want packages pay. And very good that the “shouting at open source developers” got some more attention again with this blog post. Too many people wanting to grab and demand but not give anything back. Time for a change!

Adderbox76,

There are two types of Open Source users; those of us who understand and live by the ethos of FOSS, and users who just want to use a software that they don’t have to pay for and don’t care or understand the underlying ideas behind it.

That second group is the group who, no matter how many times they hear it explained to them, will refuse to believe that “free” doesn’t necessarily mean “no-cost” and therefore develop an expectation of “free” and decry that you’re not allowed to sell your software because it’s open-source, and even asking for donations is forbidden, when in reality neither of those things is remotely true.

Far more important than anything is to change the perception of Open Source to something like value ware; If you value the use you get from the software, pay an amount that you feel is fair. If they can’t afford it, that’s okay, but if they can, then the expectation needs to be that they DO. Even just a few bucks.

Drinvictus,

Then they started complaining that the image search plugin was not compatible with Apple Silicon.

What kind of psycho fucking does this.

halm,
@halm@leminal.space avatar

Apparently Mac users.

jmcs,

You have no idea. I once did an open source library that became somewhat popular and shit like that made me give it away to a consulting company that will happily attach a quote to the bullshit requests.

As in my case it was a library I also got the university students demanding I do their homework for them, which is another delightful group.

EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted,
@EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Unfortunately, college kids are still very much kids, even if they’re over 18. Which means a lot of them are dicks.

…I fucking hate teenagers.

barbara,

Damn

github.com/ayan4m1

You should do a better job updating your documentation so that people do not waste their time like I did. This change to closed source was announced where, exactly? All of your READMEs and documentation sites do not mention this. Very easy to be confused and very disappointing to me that this went closed-source.

Not only did you sell out, you also removed all the old versions that were released under an open source license so that others couldn’t continue to use out-of-support versions. DISGUSTING.

tl;dr get off GitHub and npm entirely if you want to do the closed-source thing, kthx.

Sorry for this and others. That’s a horrible experience.

django, (edited )

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  • MotoAsh,

    Then FOSS is not for you. Stop using it.

    django,

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  • MotoAsh,

    Who’s entitlement is “this entitlement”? It’s a stupid idea to use pronouns in an opening comment, especially when you’re adding little extra.

    SuperFola,
    @SuperFola@programming.dev avatar

    And they justified with

    I’m having a mental health crisis right now. What I said was wrong, I could not see that a few days ago. Take whatever you want from that. I am sorry. Please stop piling on now that I have removed everything. I am seriously ill and need to stop being involved in anything for several months.

    (Leaving the end out as it can be triggering, talking about death)

    I don’t know what to make of this.

    sorter_plainview,

    TBH I felt this is something they made up once it got more attention. If they had felt remorse, they might have come back to apologise or correct their mistake, sometime in the past two weeks I guess.

    Who knows maybe they are really ill. Maybe they just made everything up.

    Telorand,

    Sounds like they’re going through some shit and using toxic online interactions in an effort to try to ameliorate their internal struggles. It reminds me of a wounded animal lashing out.

    Doesn’t justify them, but it does give more context so people can respond accordingly.

    starman,
    @starman@programming.dev avatar

    Why not dual-license?

    Copyleft for true FOSS experience or paid option for companies.

    devraza,
    @devraza@lemmy.ml avatar

    This is a pretty good option, though I also think something like what aseprite has done is pretty good too (compile it yourself for free, or pay for a precompiled binary available through e.g. Steam) - from what I can tell this setup is fairly profitable.

    datendefekt,
    @datendefekt@lemmy.ml avatar

    While I can fully understand his pain, I can’t quite follow how adding a paid subscription model will make his life easier (except financially).

    Before, he had to deal with entitled asshats, and now he’ll have to deal with asshats feeling even more entitled, because they paid for it.

    fruitycoder,

    I’ve oddly seen people be more entitled to free things then things they pay for. There is now a legal entitlement for these people now though

    jkrtn,

    With the subscription they can focus on the Pareto optimization. 20% of the subscribers will be causing 80% of the entitled asshattery. Drop those, focus on features, raise prices, keep the good contracts. This software looks like a good fit for enterprise spending tens of thousands to get a support contract.

    It sounds like the repo is still up and open and they just aren’t going to deal with unpaid work packaging it up and managing idiots whining about it? Good for them, I honestly don’t have any complaints with this.

    DestroyerOfWorlds,

    I’ve given up on humanity, but not open source for some reason

    Corgana,
    @Corgana@startrek.website avatar

    This public issue on the nut.js repo, where I’m publicly accused of something that’s entirely not true was the final nail in the coffin.

    Damn FOSS geeks, they ruin FOSS!

    GolfNovemberUniform,
    @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

    I really hope that most of the developers won’t listen to this. Any commercialization makes software worse because the devs don’t care about it being good as much as if it was fully FOSS. I know it’s very hard to maintain large software projects without a sustainable income but hey that’s why the community exists. Advertise your software so you can have more users, contributors and donators

    DieguiTux8623,

    Developing software and managing a community are totally different skills and mastering both is not to be taken for granted.

    Plus, since you are very passionate about the open source projects you maintain or contribute to, it is difficult to “detach” yourself from people’s issues and not feel every criticism as a personal attack (and yes, when your software does not have the features/behavior they expect, some people can express their disappointment in quite a sharp way).

    I prefer not to make anyone pay anything but “you get what it is, be warned that you may experience some bugs or lack of support for certain devices” (because I can’t buy every piece of hardware and test). Few people have accepted this model but, those who did, have always been supportive and respectful, making me rediscover a little hope that kindness isn’t dead at all.

    tvbusy,

    My experience with maintaining open source projects (though mine are very much smaller) is that it’s quite similar to a business: you just have to deal with stakeholders and people who think they are stakeholders.

    I had all the same experience at work:

    • Some unknown person from an unrelated team contacted me because something that my team does not manage broke. I tried to help a few times and I suddenly became their personal IT support team.
    • Another time someone not even working at my company demanded that I drop everything and fix their problem, because my name appeared in 3rd parties libraries.

    It’s sad that open source authors don’t always receive the recognition that they deserve.

    neo,
    @neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

    uses pushover license

    surprised pikachu face when he gets pushed over

    every time, folks.

    Imprint9816,

    Sucks to see something destroy a mans spirit. Not only did it change his outlook on creating open source but it soured his view on open source in general. Reads a bit overly salty but, understandable as it sounds like he went through a lot.

    Junkdata,

    I dont blame em for going with that decision. Maintainer/devs are also wearing customer service/ PR and bookeeping hat on top of the things they build. Things cost money, especially time, call it greedy or not but people have to pay housing and food. Its tough and similar to a lot of industries, nobody cares until something goes wrong. All the best to this person 👍

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